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Left Horrified as Trump Calls Robert E. Lee a 'Great General'
PJ Media ^ | 10/16/2018 | Rick Moran

Posted on 10/16/2018 7:26:21 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: DIRTYSECRET

Grant was not a drunk. The origins of this pernicious falsehood lies with jealous rivals and bitter Southrons who couldn’t accept that Grant whipped Lee and the rest of Johnny Reb’s ass and crushed the foolish rebellion.


21 posted on 10/16/2018 7:55:32 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: Sans-Culotte

Cold Harbor was a harbinger of WWI’s trench warfare.


22 posted on 10/16/2018 7:55:39 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: SeekAndFind

The General Lee was a great Car.

It could fly through the air and come down without a scratch while outrunning every Police Interceptor sent after it.

It had the best Horn too, even better then the one on a Roadrunner.


23 posted on 10/16/2018 7:56:21 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (THEY LIVE, and we're the only ones wearing the Sunglasses.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Great general doesn’t mean great cause, or even a great person. The WWII Japanese had some great generals fighting for a rotten cause.


24 posted on 10/16/2018 7:56:33 AM PDT by Socon-Econ
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To: SeekAndFind

“Robert E Lee was part of a faction that was willing to rip this nation apart to protect its own interests at the expense of other people & the Constitution. https://t.co/1OV96ytz79

— Joyce Alene (@JoyceWhiteVance) October 13, 2018”

Yeah, that’s right. That faction was called democrats.


25 posted on 10/16/2018 7:57:14 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: jospehm20

Yup. What he lacked in tactical brilliance he more than made up for in brutal practicality. His Vicksburg campaign bordered on brilliant.


26 posted on 10/16/2018 8:00:25 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: DIRTYSECRET
Lee was the greatest general this country ever produced. Grant was a drunk.

Total nonsense. Utterly moronic historic ignorance

Grant was far better commander then Lee.

His Vicksburg campaign is still being studied at West Point. He is also the only Union General to force the surrender of 3 Confederate armies.

The US Civil war was the prototype for Modern War. What seemed so shocking to his Democrats poltical foes (Both Confederate and in the North) was Grant was the 1st General on either side who understood that the only path to victory was the utter defeat of the South’s will to wage war. The only way to end the war was beating the South until it was on its knees.

So since they could not argue the facts, they engaged in Democrat Politics 101, the smear job. Grant historical legacy "as a drunk", only now being corrected by modern historians, was largely a fabrication of Lincoln’s, Democrat political foes, and sore losers Southern Generals.

Lee was promoted past his competency level. He would of been much better staying as an Army General and someone like Albert Sidney or Joe Johnson being the over all commander.

Lee never grasped the war was national in scale. He focused on Virginia only and, arguably, cost the South the war by refusing to look at the strategic picture on the other fronts.

In addition, Grant understood the strategic priorities of the North in a way Lee never did for the South. Lee’s biggest failing, like the French in WW1, believed offensive warfare was the key. He never understood that given the South deficits in material and manpower, he need to win by outlasting the north. Fredricksburg, and possible 2nd Manassas were Lee’s only true victory. In the rest of his battler he continually lost a greater portion of his force then the North. The result is all of his victories were Phyrric. They won a short term respite in exchange for irreplaceable casualties

Washington was by far a greater General then Lee. Washington, facing much the same sort of odds as Lee with a much weaker supply base grasped the need to simply outlast the British. If Lee had been half the General Washington was, the South might have won the war.

27 posted on 10/16/2018 8:01:02 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (They would have to abandon leftism to achieve sanity. Freeper Olog-hai)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

yes but how many slaves did Grant own?


28 posted on 10/16/2018 8:02:00 AM PDT by RitchieAprile
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To: SeekAndFind

And yet the left thinks the Kenyan cocksucker was an American.


29 posted on 10/16/2018 8:02:30 AM PDT by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Grant was ferocious and he ruthlessly used every advantage to crush his enemy. His campaign against Vicksburg is still studied today.
He was, however, a crappy politician. He was too trusting.


30 posted on 10/16/2018 8:04:35 AM PDT by Little Ray (Freedom Before Security!)
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To: jospehm20

That’s good. Me, too.


31 posted on 10/16/2018 8:05:47 AM PDT by laplata (The Left/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: laplata

Lee was a great general when he worked out his plans until Longstreet vetted them. When he hatched something and ran with it despite holes percieved by Longstreet, not so much.

As long as he worked within the framework of being the leader of a competent staff, he was good. But he was not a good solo planner.


32 posted on 10/16/2018 8:07:05 AM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Y’know, given the level of alcohol consumption in that era, Grant might have only been a little above normal.


33 posted on 10/16/2018 8:08:39 AM PDT by Little Ray (Freedom Before Security!)
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To: SeekAndFind

HE WAS THE DEMOCRAT GENERAL


34 posted on 10/16/2018 8:08:55 AM PDT by struggle
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To: Democrats hate too much; wardaddy; Pelham; DiogenesLamp; Dick Bachert; GSWarrior; John S Mosby
He wasn't really saying that Grant was greater, only that he was the eventual winner--that Donald Trump is all about winning. The reference to the two great Generals was actually a stroke of genius in Southwest Ohio--at least among those of us who had kin in Southwest Ohio, at the relevant time.

The generation of Southern Ohioans who grew up after the terrible war, had profound admiration for both men. And were aware,also, of the noble risk that General Grant--himself a great admirer of Lee--took, in his threat against anyone who would try to prosecute Lee.

I think that Lee was pretty generally idolized by West Point graduates in the 19th Century.

It is all part of how truly our President understands "winning" in multiple senses. (Now is truly the time to help him demonstrate that trait!!) A vote for Trump supporters, today, is the best way, I know to honor the memory of both Generals!!

William Flax

35 posted on 10/16/2018 8:09:19 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: RitchieAprile

yes but how many slaves did Grant own?

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At least one.


36 posted on 10/16/2018 8:09:51 AM PDT by laplata (The Left/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: MrEdd

Lee’s greatest enemy was attrition.


37 posted on 10/16/2018 8:11:47 AM PDT by laplata (The Left/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: Sans-Culotte
His one mistake against Lee was the suicidal attack at Cold Harbor

And unlike Lee, Grant learned from his error. His slipped away from supposed genius Lee and crossed the James river in one of the most brilliant feat in the Civil War.

Grants biggest problem in the East was being hobbled with divisional and brigade commanders who were completely defensive minded out of fear of Lee. Petersburg VA should of taken long before Lee ever got his troops moving if Grant's tactical commander on the scene Quincy A. Gillmore' had had even a modicum of skill.

38 posted on 10/16/2018 8:12:15 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (They would have to abandon leftism to achieve sanity. Freeper Olog-hai)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Grant was a drunk.


This was claimed during the war. Lincoln’s response was supposedly on the lines of “find out what he’s drinking and order a barrel of it for my other generals”.


39 posted on 10/16/2018 8:12:29 AM PDT by hanamizu
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To: laplata

Grant freed his slaves he got from his Father in Law.


40 posted on 10/16/2018 8:12:40 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (They would have to abandon leftism to achieve sanity. Freeper Olog-hai)
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