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South Africa's White Farmers Face Land Seizure
Daily Express ^ | 11/16/2018 | Simon Osborne

Posted on 11/20/2018 6:21:13 AM PST by ek_hornbeck

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To: ek_hornbeck

You are absolutely right.


61 posted on 11/20/2018 8:19:13 PM PST by Dante3
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To: nopardons

Of course they are not but many in this country including on that site believe it.


62 posted on 11/21/2018 2:15:09 AM PST by Altura Ct.
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To: nopardons
I wasn't aware of the fact that getting an exit visa from SA is so difficult, so thanks for the additional information. If that's the case, probably the only way around it is to bribe the right officials.

As to the devalued Rand and restrictions on withdrawals from SA banks, it's my understanding that the wealthier landowners in SA like in Zimbabwe often kept their liquid assets in foreign banks in in hard foreign currencies for these reasons. That leaves those without such resources in a very bad bind.

Concerning western countries not taking these people as refugees, I said in another post that as far as the US is concerned, there's some hope that under the Trump administration they will be allowed in as legitimate refugees. Mike Pompeo has expressed concern over ANC land seizures, so with any luck he'll get to work on this and get a sympathetic ear from the President.

63 posted on 11/21/2018 5:56:14 AM PST by ek_hornbeck
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To: nopardons
And add to that...an extremely large portion of blacks, who now live in RSA, only arrived there in the past 50 years, many of them in the last 20! Ergo, THEY NEVER OWNED ANY OF THE SUPPOSED LAND, THAT THE AFRIKANERS HAVE OWNED FOR 100s OF YEARS!

Quite right, most of the Bantu tribes of South Africa aren't any more "native" to the region than Europeans. And as we've both pointed out, the blacks of South Africa aren't the monolithic supporters of the ANC that the media makes them out to be. Liberals and "black power" types in the US always saw Chief Buthelezi and his Zulu tribe as an embarrassment to their cause because of his support of the Apartheid government over the ANC. He may not have liked Apartheid, but he and his people realized that ANC rule would be a thousand times worse for them.

64 posted on 11/21/2018 6:00:19 AM PST by ek_hornbeck
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To: ek_hornbeck

Lots of extremely low-IQ Marxine Waters types running that government.


65 posted on 11/21/2018 6:03:48 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks ( The US Constitution ....... Invented by geniuses and God .... Administered by morons ......)
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To: Altura Ct.
I wish that you had posted a bit differently, because I wouldn't have gone after you. But thanks for posting what you have, now.

The major problem, as I see it, is that the vast majority, in the West, know almost nothing at all about RSA, nor any other African nation, so were/are open to believing anything at all that the MSM tells them about this topic.

66 posted on 11/21/2018 12:21:45 PM PST by nopardons
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To: ek_hornbeck
It's a crazy system, over there!

To get an exit visa, you have to buy what amounts to a lottery ticket for each person, which is NOT "cheap". Then they hold the drawing. If your "ticket" doesn't "win", you don't get one. A family can have one or more people "winning", whilst others don't. And if you don't "win", you are denied a visa; which means that a 5 year old child could win, but neither parent has; or any version of that scenario.

To make matters worse, to try to get a visa, you must BUY a chance each time...for each drawing, for each member of the family, hoping that ALL of you will win the next time; with very low odds of that happening! "Bribe"? LOL...not likely to work for the average person.

Oh they'll take your money, but lots of luck getting any "help" after the "bribe" has been pocketed!

Help from Pompeo/Trump? Maybe, but not any time soon, I bet. There are a whole L

67 posted on 11/21/2018 12:31:59 PM PST by nopardons
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During the Apartheid, blacks from other nations, tried and tried and tried to storm the borders, to live in RSA; some succeeding, many not, because the RSA Army was stationed on the borders to stop or catch the INVADING ILLEGALS! Still and all, many did somehow get through...more after the damned COMMIE ANC took over.

The Boers and the Zulus were more or less non-combatant neighbors. The Zulus were NEVER for the ANC COMMIES, which is why Winnie Mandela set upon forcing them, through intimidation, torture, necklacing, and murders, to "bend a knee", so to speak, to their ANC OVERLORDS. It worked for some, not as well as she had planned. Today, the majority of Zulus are still against the ANC and all that it stands for.

The Zulus fought the Xhosa, beat them badly, and brought them into what is now RSA....asSLAVES and THAT is how that tribe got there to begin with!

The vast majority to the ANC, from its beginnings, were Xhosa; "saint Nelson", the stinking COMMIE TERRORIST, was an Xhosa.

Re Western misconceptions.....The Western world was was fed a whole LOT of insane propaganda about Desmond Tutu! OTOH...in South Africa he was/is looked upon as an idiot; a NOTHING, by most!

68 posted on 11/21/2018 12:51:02 PM PST by nopardons
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