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Prosecutors’ Narrative Is Clear: Trump Defrauded Voters. But What Does It Mean?
New York Times ^ | Dec. 8, 2018 | Peter Baker, Nicholas Fandos

Posted on 12/09/2018 8:43:47 AM PST by libstripper

WASHINGTON — The latest revelations by prosecutors investigating President Trump and his team draw a portrait of a candidate who personally directed an illegal scheme to manipulate the 2016 election and whose advisers had more contact with Russia than Mr. Trump has ever acknowledged.

In the narrative that the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, and New York prosecutors are building, Mr. Trump continued to secretly seek to do business in Russia deep into his presidential campaign even as Russian agents made more efforts to influence him. At the same time, in this account he ordered hush payments to two women to suppress stories of impropriety in violation of campaign finance law. (My deemphasis.)

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: fakenews; giletjaunes; giletsoranges; howeburnedinthecamps; impeachment; itsusorthem; mueller; newyorkslimes; nyslimes; nyslimesfakenews; trump
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To: libstripper; butlerweave; Mr. K; madprof98; Pravious; Sacajaweau; Diogenesis; Eric in the Ozarks; ..
Remember what president Barry the Skidmark did with the Tea Party and the IRS.

If the Deep Staters regain control of the government, they WILL use our voting records and other records to come after all of us.

Our choice is simple.

It's us or them.

#ItsUsOrThem

61 posted on 12/09/2018 10:06:18 AM PST by kiryandil (Never pick a fight with an angry beehive)
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To: KavMan

They don’t care if only one person votes as long as they win.


62 posted on 12/09/2018 10:06:59 AM PST by Terry Mross
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To: libstripper

It is initiatives like this on the part of the media that will harden my resolve to support Khal Donald through it all. I, for one, will never be separated from him no matter what. If he turns out to be a criminal then he is “my criminal”.


63 posted on 12/09/2018 10:08:59 AM PST by HChampagne (Cruz supporter but I will support and vote for Trump.)
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To: libstripper

Trump paid Daniels $100k. Mueller took $30M from the public in an investigation in search of a crime.

Who defrauded the American public?


64 posted on 12/09/2018 10:10:34 AM PST by Flick Lives
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To: libstripper

It means what they want it to mean. It is a message to the supporters of President Trump saying: F!@K YOU! We did this, what are you going to do about it? And to emphasize it, they spit in the faces of the Trump supporters.


65 posted on 12/09/2018 10:12:53 AM PST by sport
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To: centurion316
1. Southern District of New York is a FEDERAL district, any actions taken there would be Federal actions. If Mueller can't indict Trump in D.C. changing to SDNY doesn't change that.

Your idea that an indictment just "doesn't go anywhere" is odd. What do you mean by that?

If Trump is indicted then, like everyone else ever indicted he will either plead guilty or go to trial.

Whether in D.C. or New York her will face a hostile, Democrat and minority-filled jury. It will be a walk in the park for the prosecutors, as we saw in the Scooter Libby case, in which he got 5 years for lying.

66 posted on 12/09/2018 10:15:03 AM PST by Jack Black ("If you believe in things that you don't understand then you suffer" - "Superstition",Stevie Wonder)
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To: kiryandil

They are 40 percent of the country. Remember, the devil always overreaches.


67 posted on 12/09/2018 10:20:43 AM PST by cowboyusa (America Cowboy Up)
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To: kiryandil

The Left that turns a blind eye to Hillary colluding with foreign agents will celebrate a return to the misdeeds of Barry.


68 posted on 12/09/2018 10:26:05 AM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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69 posted on 12/09/2018 10:33:14 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: centurion316

I think that once a decade, America needs a lesson of how crazy the left is in power, it’s coming.


70 posted on 12/09/2018 10:36:11 AM PST by cowboyusa (America Cowboy Up)
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To: centurion316

It’s time to understand that the national media, particularly the WaPo and NY Times, are a special interest aligned with rich globalists against the American people.


71 posted on 12/09/2018 10:39:39 AM PST by jyo19
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To: madprof98

If anyone has conspired to defraud voters, it’s been the media and the DNC, not Trump.


72 posted on 12/09/2018 10:42:05 AM PST by zencycler
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To: Jack Black

Go tell someone who does not know that the Southern District of New York is a Federal Jurisdiction. Those people have been referring to the Manhattan DA.

The U.S. Attorney’s indictment will not go anywhere, he will be told by the Attorney General and by the Courts that the remedy for Presidential misbehavior is via impeachment


73 posted on 12/09/2018 10:44:40 AM PST by centurion316
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To: libstripper

More lies.

Running a business is collusion and making an NDA is a campaign finance law violation.

If this is the best Mueller and his 17 Angry Democrats have come up with, Trump has nothing to worry about.

Defrauding the voters. The new Democrat libr for overturning the 2016 election result. Jeez.


74 posted on 12/09/2018 11:04:21 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

I knew exactly who I was voting for.


75 posted on 12/09/2018 11:07:58 AM PST by marajade
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To: Yaelle

They tried that stunt with the Hollywood Access tapes. Voters didn’t buy it.

If sex is the hill Trump’s enemies want to die on, its a private matter. There’s no real crime here.

This reeks of a double standard.


76 posted on 12/09/2018 11:09:44 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: libstripper

Wow. The news is so much more gripping when you can just make it up.


77 posted on 12/09/2018 11:13:40 AM PST by j.havenfarm ( 1,500 posts as of 8/10/18. A FReeper since 2000; never shutting up!)
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To: cowboyusa
They are 40 percent of the country. Remember, the devil always overreaches.

Yes.

The DemoKKKratzis are a minority party.

They just make a lot of noise for their size.

78 posted on 12/09/2018 11:14:18 AM PST by kiryandil (Never pick a fight with an angry beehive)
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To: Jack Black; centurion316
There has to be a Rule Of Law for your scenario to go forward.

Screw their phony "Law".

If the Deep Staters regain control of the government, they WILL use our voting records and other records to come after all of us.

Our choice is simple.

It's us or them.

#ItsUsOrThem

79 posted on 12/09/2018 11:21:38 AM PST by kiryandil (Never pick a fight with an angry beehive)
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To: HChampagne
If he turns out to be a criminal then he is “my criminal”.

Remember the book "Three Felonies A Day".

Your life is a "crime" if they want to get you.

If you're a part of the System, like Rapin Bill Clinton, you can perjure yourself in a Federal judge's face and IT'S ALL GOOD.

Then you and your wife can set up a Pay-For-Play money machine in the US State Department, and become millionaires.

80 posted on 12/09/2018 11:25:34 AM PST by kiryandil (Never pick a fight with an angry beehive)
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