It was effective.
Posted on 12/14/2018 4:54:18 PM PST by kiryandil
The modest, respectful replies are often the most powerful.
Thank you for your service and dedication.
Better to lie and be disqualified then tell the truth and be prosecuted. There is always another job out there.
Besides, the polygraph is mostly voodoo anyway. Operators have little better than a 50/50 chance of detecting falsehoods and cannot prove anything even when they believe they are getting clear indicators of deception.
It is mostly a psychological manipulation to get people to make voluntary confessions. Don't confess or make snarky implications or actually brag? No problem.
The key was transitioning to war fighting and away from policing. The SJAs were told to shut the hell up, and more realistic Rules of Engagement were approved.
Then Obama got elected and we went back into darkness. That is the reason why we could not win. And you can't win fighting police actions (Vietnam included). Joint Doctrine and Service Doctrine do not know anything about that (except for military police support to operations). World History has never went the route of law enforcement without first vanquishing the enemy. Ever.
Look at Syria and what DJT did in 2017. Do you realize US Marine artillery fired more rounds than Desert Storm? And OIR/OIF? Do you really think artillery kills only bad guys? War is not clean. And if you are serious about war, you put your artillery closest to the enemy. And when a commissioned officer, using his best military judgement (that a person is the enemy)....then you kill him.
To do otherwise ensures defeat and a massive waste of resources.
Hey newbie you might need to STFU. You have no idea what our men go through in combat situations. War is not policing on the streets of America. Sometimes you gotta do what ya gotta do.
Trust me., Keyboard warrior, this JAG has all the experience I need on this subject.
It’s war not a friggin boxing match. The object is to kill the enemy, just like they try and kill us.As someone else said, no different than calling in a drone strike on a convoy. You can argue semantics all you want, bottom line, kill your enemy before he can kill you and your team. We just lost several soldiers last week to an IED planted in the middle of the road so screw you and the high horse you rode in on.
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Give him the Medal of Honor, and give the prosecutor a permanent nose bleed.
What’s the matter with this country?
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You’re nothing but an obama shill.
“We shot them under Rule 303.”
“Shoot straight, you bastards, don’t make a mess of it.”
Give him more gasoline. Lots of IED makers to fry.
I remember reading that something like a Grand Total of 3 US soldiers were prosecuted for violating the Rules of Engagement in World War 2.
No wonder we can’t win anymore.
Never guilty to return defective products to its manufacturer.
In reading about the first Iraq war that was the intent. I heard it in the news.
Guy sounds like a nut
In my last post a certain DoD facility, I studied the after action report from Hue City and compared its intelligence failures because of the inherent faulty intelligence plans; then I compared them to a certain plan that is being worked present day. Tet was a complete intelligence failure and I concluded that the same sleepy-eyed, unimaginative, unrealistic approach exists today.
If your final phase in the operations plan doesn't include getting artillery within striking range of your adversary.....then your plan is shit, and your intelligence supporting the plan is shit. Equally, if your ROE doesn't support your fires plan to massively kill your enemy (the point of this article and debate), then your plan is shit.
King of Battle is king of battle for a reason. I can write an Afghanistan plan to conclude that fight in one year's time. It would be a very skinny plan with little need for precision-munitions. The one piece missing for the last decade in US military strategy is "forcing/compelling" the Afghanistan government to "sift/screen" tribes/municipalities for evil doers: and then wreck them with artillery. It's easy if you can do it, but hard it you don't have the national will to execute. Of course, Pakistan has to be dealt with too.
Nope. WE provided advance intelligence including time tables, routes, targets, OB, logistics, etc to the Senior Commanders. Because many of them failed to take action wasn't our failure, it was theirs.
The CI and HUMINT for Hue City was nonexistent, both before and during the op. Two reasons: there is no mention of HUMINT absent tactical interrogation (and it was pedestrian at best), and a Marine SSgt is KIA when he went to the soccer stadium with his OIC to set up an interrogation capability.
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