Posted on 12/17/2018 11:04:47 AM PST by Kaslin
Government needs to stay out of all vice but they won’t because it makes government and other entities money hand over fist.
That said, the "strange dichotomy" posited by the article is rank nonsense - marijuana is vastly less dangerous than opioids.
“Never heard of death by marijuana overdose”
Already documented in Colorado, several now.
Yes, the war on marijuana is make-work for many government employees.
Already documented in Colorado, several now.
I call BS ... let's see this alleged documentation.
I would disagree. A conservative also must use common sense and isn't above using govenment as a necessary evil in extreme cases. What you are describing is libertarianism or anarchy which in extreme cases are the same thing.
Especially on a repeated basis over many years.
It may cause health issues related to taking in that smoke or you might be one of the lucky ones who go their entire life without experiencing those issues. But I think it has affects on everyone over repeated usage for many years. Especially when you start becoming more sedentary and less active.
I know I tire easily now that I'm 66, and have to take several breaks when exerting energy. Walking has become more difficult as well. But a lot of that has been my becoming inactive after I hit about 35 and working at a computer all day, as I have for decades.
Great career, but I needed to balance that time behind the computer with more physical activity.
Impossible to ping everyone who’s said this on this thread so I’ll address this to the OP implying “all”:
This opinion piece doesn’t advocate getting rid of MJ in favor of opioids, or the reverse. I’ve read it twice to be sure.
It’s saying that since we are relaxing laws about MJ we shouldn’t restrict them for opioids. So if anything it’s saying the reverse of those who feel the author is saying MJ should be restricted like opioids. So IOW the author seems to be advocating both should be unrestricted or at least not as restricted as now.
Also the author is saying they (opiods) should in fact *not* be restricted, or at least as unrestricted as MJ is becoming. So all those on this thread suffering with chronic pain who apparently need opiods to manage it shouldn’t feel threatened by this piece either.
IOW, seems like a lot of arguing going on on this thread for nothing.
Are the extreme cases regulating what people do to their own body, on their own time, and on their own dime?
Obviously no one should be driving stoned any more than driving drunk, etc; and they are unemployable because they can’t refrain from something - be it booze, cigarettes, weed or coffee- to hell with them, let ‘em starve.
But if someone makes it their business to interfere with a person who wants a drink, or a bong hit, or simply relief from a level of pain *THEY* consider too high, then in my opinion that person is not a conservative, they are an authoritarian who merely wants to use the state to enforce their particular beliefs.
Respectfully
Is there an "extreme case" here?
Yep. Good article.
‘the stoner FR contingent comes flooding out of their bong resin drenched hidey-holes to bravely conquer another thread in 3 . . 2 . . . 1 . .’
yeah, ok; whatever you say, Cotton Mather...
Yep.
Surely you don't mean that?
I think it is more that the author is making any sort of equivalency between them. Marijuana should be treated like booze- legal but with the obvious and logical restrictions (driving, etc.).
Opioids are an issue not of recreation but of medication.
Although some, such as myself, would say ‘legalize it; if some losers die it’s still worth it for people in extreme pain to be able to get relief’, there is more of a societal framework for at least treating them as medicine, although they should be a medicine readily available to anyone in pain.
So my objections to the article are really calling for a division of question- STOP treating cannabis as anything other than recreational *AND* get the damned idiots who think that other humans should have to suffer pain named and shamed and revealed as the despicable ‘humans’ they are.
“I am sick of decent people having to suffer because of lowlifes who would be addicts”
The real lowlifes are the bureaucrats, federal agents, prosecutors, politicians and those who support near prohibition of opiates for patients with chronic pain.
Leave the addicts alone, they don’t have anything to do with passage and enforcement of severe restrictions on opioid prescribing. The addicts are merely scape goats for politicians and bureaucrats.
Opioid overdose deaths have gone up while opioid prescriptions have gone down since they peaked around 2013.
Heroin, fentanyl prices have declined significantly. But, it’s easier to bust a doctor or pharmacist than a drug dealer; it’s the paper trail of course. When raided, doctors and pharmacists don’t shoot back (at least for now).
““Opioids were involved in 42,249 overdose deaths in 2016 (66.4% of all drug overdose deaths).””
How many of those OD deaths were caused by Vicodin?
No Shiite.
I cannot explain the level of pain or frustration to anyone when it comes to a “Good Night” of grinding my teeth or after doing simple house chores the joy of feeling the burn in my shoulder for days afterward.
And at this point it is more about the pain from the effects of bruxism, which no one gives a damn about.....or they have some morally superior alternative about their super hero status....
Good times for sure.....
I’d love to drop one week of my bruxism on any person so they can enjoy.....
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