[cuban leaf]

I give us less than five years. Probably a lot less.

I think the big news next year will be the implosion of Obamacare, among other things.

[ZULU]

At this point there are only two paths:
capitulation or resistance.
All others have been exhausted.

[fr_freak]

I give us less than five years. Probably a lot less.

I think it all comes down to Trump. If they impeach him, it's on. If he loses re-election and there is even the slightest hint of voter fraud (which there will be - tons of it), it's on. Even if Trump loses and some hardcore leftwing nutbag is accepted as the legitimate winner - if that nutbag then uses the power of his office to retaliate and persecute conservatives (which he will)- it's on. Oh, and if any harm, at all, comes to Trump, it's on.

The thing is that the last two years have exposed too many things, even to a great many "normal" people who don't pay that much attention to politics. These are things which we can't unsee. Conservatives are the ones who not only keep the trains running on time, but keep the trains running at all, and now their faith in the system is gone. The lefties have been brainwashed since the 60s or earlier into believing that the system is illegitimate, and have been acting accordingly, but when the Right goes the same way, there will be no institution left that has the recognized moral authority to stop what's coming.