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This is why the Shutdown won't end
AXIOS ^ | Jan 17, 2019

Posted on 01/17/2019 5:02:45 AM PST by 11th_VA

A new poll by the Pew Research Center shows a big part of the reason why the standoff over funding President Trump's border wall has been so impossible to solve: Republican support for the wall is higher than at any time since Trump's election, while Democratic support has dwindled to almost nothing.

The big picture: When the divide has gotten this big, it's hard to see how the government shutdown ends. Although a majority of the public still opposes the wall, Republican support is so high that Trump and GOP leaders would face a furious backlash if they reopen the government with no wall funding. And Democrats would face an even stronger backlash if they agree to fund the wall.

By the numbers:

•Overall, 58% of the public opposes expanding the wall along the border with Mexico, while 40% supports it.

•And a slight majority — 51% — says funding the wall would be unacceptable even if that's the only way to end the shutdown. Just 29% say reopening the government without wall funding would be unacceptable.

•But a clear majority of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents — 63% — don't want Trump and the GOP to end the shutdown without wall funding.

[Great graph at the link!]

(Excerpt) Read more at axios.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 116th; axios; buildthefence; daca; dnctalkingpoint; dnctalkingpoints; dreamact; dreamers; globalwarminghoax; mediawingofthednc; obstructionistdems; partisanmediashills; presstitutes; shutdown; smearmachine
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1 posted on 01/17/2019 5:02:45 AM PST by 11th_VA
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To: 11th_VA

Trump should adjourn Congress until after the next election.

Nothing is going to get done anyway.


2 posted on 01/17/2019 5:05:52 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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“Overall, 58% of the public opposes expanding the wall along the border with Mexico”

I don’t believe 58% oppose.

Never Accept the Premise of Your Opponent’s Argument. If one fails to establish the premise to his argument, one almost always fails to convince others of his conclusion. On the other hand, if one establishes a premise one will more than likely get others to agree with his conclusion.


3 posted on 01/17/2019 5:06:37 AM PST by where's_the_Outrage? (Drain the Swamp. Build the Wall.)
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To: 11th_VA

Axios and Pew. No bias there. Nope.


4 posted on 01/17/2019 5:07:53 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Fox News: "We distort, you deride")
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To: 11th_VA

If the reporter we’re honest which he is not he would find out and know that the wall represents the end to any and all honest elections in the future because of the numbers of illegal aliens which would be voting Democrat registered Democrat get driver’s licenses and free stuff.


5 posted on 01/17/2019 5:08:00 AM PST by CincyRichieRich (I don’t like it; I won’t see it - Conservative...I don’t like it; No one should see it! - Liberal)
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To: 11th_VA
By the numbers: bullcrap:
6 posted on 01/17/2019 5:09:36 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: 11th_VA

A whole lotta good can come from this.

This is the hill to die on, no?

Stay the course Mr. President, and know there are tens of millions that support you 1000%.


7 posted on 01/17/2019 5:09:57 AM PST by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: 11th_VA

What are the numbers among registered voters/likely voters? Probably more in favor of the wall.


8 posted on 01/17/2019 5:10:20 AM PST by McCarthysGhost
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To: where's_the_Outrage?
Never Accept the Premise of Your Opponent’s Argument. LIES!
9 posted on 01/17/2019 5:10:24 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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Pew is leftist propaganda, so the Trump team’s internal polling is probably better.


10 posted on 01/17/2019 5:11:38 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: 11th_VA

Same polls said hillary was winning by a landslide.


11 posted on 01/17/2019 5:12:02 AM PST by Eagles6
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...58% of the public opposes expanding the wall along the border with Mexico, while 40% supports it.

I doubt this, and it depends upon how the survey was worded and who responded. I read one poll last week that said over 70% support the wall. Clearly, something is amiss.

12 posted on 01/17/2019 5:12:46 AM PST by econjack
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To: goldstategop

The Senate needs to confirm lots of good judges.


13 posted on 01/17/2019 5:15:20 AM PST by PapaBear3625 ("Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." -- Voltaire)
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a majority of the public still opposes the wall

Ridiculous. The majority of the people may not care, but there is no decent reason for anyone to "oppose the wall". The Democrat leadership has reasons -- cheap labor, sex trafficking, additional new voters who want government benefits. Democrat politicians can profit from open borders.

But the majority the public? How on earth do they profit from an open border? The open border is all negative for the man on the street. He may not care about the wall. He may support the wall. But oppose the wall??? That's something only SJW do -- and they are not the majority of the public.

14 posted on 01/17/2019 5:16:09 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

If the majority of the public was really opposed to building the wall, why don’t Democrats and their fake media amen chorus talk about it?

Instead they talk up Russia, Russia, Russia and Trump being a McDonalds snob.

If they were winning the shutdown fight, it should be easy for them to talk about how building a border wall is bad for the country.

They can’t and they change the subject at every opportunity. It isn’t a winning issue for them and they’re playing with a weak hand.


15 posted on 01/17/2019 5:17:24 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

You pretty much nailed it. There is simply NO WAY 56% of American voters are opposed to a border wall. That is like saying most Americans would like to slit their own throats.


16 posted on 01/17/2019 5:18:32 AM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: 11th_VA

The shutdown ends because it is the democrats peo0le and agenda that gets hurt the most by the shutdown.... A no brainer really.


17 posted on 01/17/2019 5:19:30 AM PST by BRL
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To: 11th_VA

It will end, and it’s not a shutdown. It’s a partial freeze on funding.


18 posted on 01/17/2019 5:21:48 AM PST by I want the USA back (Lying Media: willing and eager allies of the hate-America left.)
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To: 11th_VA
Don't you just love it when RAT news outlets tell us what their opposition thinks (Republicans and Trumpsters) while they skew the questions to get the results to push "their" narrative.

Never believe with any certainty any facts a RAT obtains to describe you.

19 posted on 01/17/2019 5:22:23 AM PST by thingumbob (Antifa. Carrying on Hitler's legacy one beating at a time.)
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Trump should pivot and make this about downsizing government.

Ax those that haven’t been to work in 30 days, anyone hired by Obama, and anyone not loyal to Trump’s agenda.

Just massive downsizing will give us more than enough money for the wall and win millions of votes.

Polls are b.s. political spin these days. Trump won in the only poll that mattered - the election.


20 posted on 01/17/2019 5:22:32 AM PST by TigerClaws
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