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Trump raises a new menace - socialism - and Democrats canít agree how to respond
The Los Angeles Times ^ | February 15, 2019 | by Mark Z. Barabak and Melanie Mason

Posted on 02/15/2019 12:39:08 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

When Democrats unveiled their “Green New Deal” to fight climate change, the Republican response was swift and strikingly uniform.

“A socialist wish list,” said a spokesman for the national party.

“The socialist Democrats are off to a great start!” exclaimed a spokesman for the GOP’s congressional campaign committee.

“Socialism may begin with the best of intentions, but it always ends with the Gestapo,” chimed in Republican Sen. Tom Cotton of Arkansas, invoking Winston Churchill.

The echo was no accident. Rather, it marked a purposeful shift in rhetoric and political strategy as President Trump and his party increasingly focus on his reelection and wield the S-word, socialism, as their preferred weapon.

The president’s political rise has been replete with dark and scary imagery and perceived threats of his own making. Marauding street gangs. Rapists, drug dealers, murderers spilling across the country’s border with Mexico. By invoking a socialist threat, he summons - at least for those of a certain age - the whiff of Red Menace, bread lines and an assault on democracy and the country’s foundational free-enterprise system.

“It’s the sense of something foreign, something un-American,” said Stephanie Mudge, a UC Davis sociologist.

It also divides Democrats in a way emotional issues such as immigration, abortion and gun control generally do not.

The center of gravity within the Democratic Party has unarguably shifted leftward in recent years; polls show that Democrats have a much more favorable view of socialism than the rest of the electorate. Support for universal healthcare, higher hourly wages, increased taxes on billionaires and greater government oversight of the economy have all become standard orthodoxy among the party’s leading White House contenders.

But the consensus quickly breaks down when the question is how best to achieve those goals.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: democrats; election2020; marxism; socialism
Socialism is both a political and economic philosophy that promotes big-government non-constitutional fascism, and progressive redistribution of wealth by government masterminds -- the definition of the modern democrat party.
1 posted on 02/15/2019 12:39:08 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

How do you fight truth... when your “mockingbird” mouthpieces are being silenced?


2 posted on 02/15/2019 12:41:54 PM PST by Neidermeyer (Show me a peaceful Muslim and I will show you a heretic to the Koran.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Ban & outlaw Socialism in America . Stand up a national Civilian Volunteer Militia , whose primary mission is to root our and remove socialism from the fabric of American society . Socialists count on no one doing anything about them .

I imagine , as he and his family faced their Bolshevik socialist executioners , he had the thought “ Why did we get rid of these people when they were singular and vulnerable ?”

Are we going to repeat that here ? Wait...until it’s too late ? At what cost do we continue to tolerate the intolerable ?


3 posted on 02/15/2019 12:43:09 PM PST by LeoWindhorse
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

If you need a retort to a liberal about Socialism, especially if they hold up Sweden as an example (which they often do), have them watch this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lxD-gikpMs


4 posted on 02/15/2019 12:43:12 PM PST by econjack
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To: LeoWindhorse

excuse me : Czar Nicholas


5 posted on 02/15/2019 12:45:12 PM PST by LeoWindhorse
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To: Neidermeyer

PDJT is scheduled to deliver a speech next Monday at the International University of Florida in Miami.

Should be a barn-burner!!


6 posted on 02/15/2019 12:46:08 PM PST by edie1960
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

They HAVE agreed how to respond.

Unfortunately most Republicans in congress agreed with them as well.

OPEN BORDERS RULE.

I give one generation before calls for ‘land reform’ in this country.


7 posted on 02/15/2019 12:46:38 PM PST by Black Agnes
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Want to read something scary? Read what Beta O'Rourke's platform. It's taken right out of Das Capital.
8 posted on 02/15/2019 12:48:37 PM PST by econjack
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The Democrat Party has been run by Reds for decades.

Who does the LA Times think it’s kidding?


9 posted on 02/15/2019 12:48:39 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

And one thing that repeatedly should be tied to socialism by the Republicans . . . the dictatorial variation of it . . . is that of the Democratic Party’s ceaseless pursuit of gun control. Their intentions are evil and murderous.

Vladimir Lenin:

One man with a gun can control 100 without one. ... Make mass searches and hold executions for found arms.


10 posted on 02/15/2019 12:49:19 PM PST by RatRipper
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To: All

11 posted on 02/15/2019 12:50:17 PM PST by Liz ( Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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To: LeoWindhorse
The Constitution was intended to ban Socialism from America before that wordws even used!

Constitutional Overview

Lies Of Socialism

12 posted on 02/15/2019 12:50:54 PM PST by Ohioan
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
The great irony here is that our $22 trillion of Federal debt is probably the best defense we have against socialism.

The U.S. is like the 25 year-old moron who would piss away $200,000 on a Lamborghini ... except he's too busy paying off $200,000 of college debt to buy it.

13 posted on 02/15/2019 12:54:42 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("In the time of chimpanzees I was a monkey.")
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
“Socialism may begin with the best of intentions, but it always ends with the Gestapo..."

I'll go with:

You can vote your way into Socialism, but you have to shoot your way out of it.

14 posted on 02/15/2019 12:54:49 PM PST by C210N (Republicans sign check fronts; 'Rats sign check backs.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Thank goodness the Socialist-Demos have rejected the path of moderation they said would be their path to the Congress and the presidency. Most of those that ran for Congress as faux moderates have signed on to the New Green Deal agenda, as have those that announced their candidacy for the Dem presidential nomination. It will create a target-rich environment for President Trump and all GOP candidates. So I say to the Socialists. let’s have more of the same!


15 posted on 02/15/2019 1:09:44 PM PST by luvbach1 (I hope Trump runs roughshod over the inevitable obstuctionists, Dems, progs, libs, or RINOs!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Next step — call it what it really is — use the c-word.


16 posted on 02/15/2019 1:42:42 PM PST by Socon-Econ (adical Islam,)
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To: econjack

Or simply ask them “Oh, how long did you live in Sweden?”

They’ll stammer and start going into various cliche leftist talking points to avoid admitting that they’ve never actually lived under the system they’re promoting.


17 posted on 02/15/2019 1:45:04 PM PST by Two Kids' Dad (((( Wake me when a prominent democrat gets prosecuted. ))))
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

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Socialism is both a political and economic philosophy that promotes big-government non-constitutional fascism, and progressive redistribution of wealth by government masterminds — the definition of the modern democrat party.
>

You misspelled ‘modern UNIPARTY’


18 posted on 02/15/2019 1:50:48 PM PST by i_robot73 (One could not count the number of *solutions*, if only govt followed\enforced the Constitution.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

19 posted on 02/15/2019 4:36:25 PM PST by MacNaughton
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