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1 posted on 02/18/2019 6:14:05 PM PST by george76
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NPV sounds like an STI, figures it would emanate from California. :^)

2 posted on 02/18/2019 6:17:15 PM PST by SunkenCiv (and btw -- https://www.gofundme.com/for-rotator-cuff-repair-surgery)
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No Red State will agree to the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact. Also, it’s a proposed compact and so would need Congress to agree to it. Good luck getting it through the Senate.


3 posted on 02/18/2019 6:18:54 PM PST by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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Electoral College advocates see a window of opportunity to eliminate America’s unique presidential election system.

There is an "Anti-" that should be before "Electoral College advocates".

Big difference!

5 posted on 02/18/2019 6:21:25 PM PST by C210N (Republicans sign check fronts; 'Rats sign check backs.)
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If California doesn’t submit their votes as mandated by the Constitution their votes will not be counted.


10 posted on 02/18/2019 6:28:08 PM PST by yesthatjallen
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oh for crying out loud. Majority votes eliminate the minority voice. And majority votes has caused more hatred in the world as the disenfranchised always resort to violence. Which is why our ancestors created the Electoral College - so the voices of overpopulated city-states could never drown out the voices of the less populated non-urban areas.


11 posted on 02/18/2019 6:28:52 PM PST by blueplum ( "...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017)
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IIRC “interstate compacts” are specifically forbidden by the Constitution unless they're approved by the United States Congress.Although I suspect that there are at least a few such compacts currently operating the only one I know of is the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey...which controls various bridges,tunnels and transit systems as well as three airports in the “tri state” area.
12 posted on 02/18/2019 6:29:29 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Mitt Romney: Bringing Massachusetts Values To The Great State Of Utah.)
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The voters in Colorado have already been diluted by commiefornia escapees who brought the bad ideas with them. I do not want my vote decided by those who stayed in commiefornia or new York.


13 posted on 02/18/2019 6:30:17 PM PST by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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So no matter how your state votes, the lin=berals get the EC votes.


16 posted on 02/18/2019 6:31:46 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Being woke means you can be nasty, hateful and use and racist slurs yet feel morally superior.)
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So no matter how your state votes, the liberals get the EC votes.


17 posted on 02/18/2019 6:32:49 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Being woke means you can be nasty, hateful and use and racist slurs yet feel morally superior.)
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Why, exactly, would people in a state want to have their own Electors decided by people in OTHER states?


18 posted on 02/18/2019 6:36:08 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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States participating in NPV cannot tell non-NPV states what to do.

More importantly, states participating in NPV cannot tell NPV states what to do, either. This idiocy is an unenforceable agreement.

Election Day is in early November. The Electoral College vote is held in mid-December. That gives any NPV state 5-6 weeks to have its state legislature change its mind and drop out of the NPV. And that is exactly what will happen in any state where a Republican presidential candidate wins the national popular vote but loses an NPV state.

19 posted on 02/18/2019 6:36:12 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("In the time of chimpanzees I was a monkey.")
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3728781/posts

More here.


20 posted on 02/18/2019 6:37:03 PM PST by lizma2
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This is not even remotely Constitutional. The College of Electors is the electoral process for a Presidential election. Each State has a general election— to select the electors pledged to their candidates, and the total votes are counted to decide those electors.

This was by design-— to prevent the possibility of FACTIONS,
a very real problem at different times in US History.


21 posted on 02/18/2019 6:37:40 PM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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Mathematical proof of the merits of the Electoral College:

http://discovermagazine.com/2004/sep/math-against-tyranny

The EC is a firewall limiting fraudulent ballots - they claim they want “one person, one vote”, what they really want is “one person, 100 votes”. With the EC, no matter how many fraudulent ballots a precinct manufacturers, that state gets no more electoral votes. With NPV, there’s infinite incentive to manufacture ballots by the truckload.


22 posted on 02/18/2019 6:38:08 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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Whenever I hear someone bring up this nonsense I just pose a simple question to them.

“What if President Trump wins the popular vote in 2020?”

If they’re a thinking person, they might say “You know, that’s a good point. This isn’t a good idea.”

Sadly I think it’s mostly non-thinking NPC types pushing this, so I might as well be arguing with the wind.


23 posted on 02/18/2019 6:38:41 PM PST by MAexile (Bats left, votes rights)
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This will last up until the point that a strong third party challenger running a centrist campaign like Howard Schultz gives President Trump (or any Republican nominee) the popular vote victory.

I'll be LMAO when California or Illinois has to award their EVs to a Republican!

24 posted on 02/18/2019 6:39:37 PM PST by Drew68
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Does anyone of this forum actually believe that if the NPV compact were somehow in place and Trump won the popular vote, that California would have actually abided by it’s purported obligations? Of course not, they would litigate every state, every ballot, harvest what they had to in lib districts to overturn the election results while the establishment Republicans sat on their hands and howled about respecting the process in the name of civility or fairness or comity, or whatever fig leaf they chose that week.


29 posted on 02/18/2019 6:42:28 PM PST by jz638
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"They even think they can do it without a constitutional amendment. "

No, they can't. Interstate compacts can not supercede the constitution.

31 posted on 02/18/2019 6:45:02 PM PST by Widget Jr
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If they change it to a direct vote then it will be important to audit each state’s vote count to make sure they aren’t juicing the vote.


33 posted on 02/18/2019 6:54:49 PM PST by Brilliant
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The Electoral College is one of the federal governments enumerated powers in the Constitution, therefore the power is not reserved to the states or to the people as per the 9th and 10th amendments.

It would fail in the Supreme Court unless John Roberts is having another delusional day, which seem to be occurring with greater frequency.


34 posted on 02/18/2019 7:00:39 PM PST by oldbill
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