Posted on 03/11/2019 5:17:34 AM PDT by SJackson
They should have bailed in 2009 if not before.
agreed entirely
i would only note that the anti-Israel sentiment has been strong in Europe my entire life (remember how vogue the PLO scarves were?)
I think in the first half of the 20th century, that is certainly true. I think the prosperity of the second half of the twentieth century changed things, for sure.
I think it’s a difficult thing for non-Jewish Americans to understand how many (perhaps most?) Jews worldwide are utterly indifferent to Israel. Then there’s a small number that are actually hostile.
Have you noticed how the left always wants to define “peace” as the absence of conflict, which in practice means, giving in to the demands of totalitarians?
This was the liberal approach to the Cold War, and it is the liberals approach to Islam.
Give the slave masters what they want.
Then we will have peace.
Peace is the interval between wars
“It is time to go.
But 93% of Democrat Jewish voters will continue to vote for RAT’s.”
Source of your statistic? I heard it was 60 to 75% (which is bad enough).
I think that is sort of a fascist approach....and yes, some liberals, spill over into fascism...
I think that is sort of a fascist approach....and yes, some liberals, spill over into fascism...
Just a wild guess.
It is the thought of a historian
Certainly indifferent or openly hostile to more right-wing parties in Israel.
Yes, I remember Baider-Manhoff as well; they were in league with the PLO hijackers; they killed the Executive Director of a large German business combine and after they were caught, hanged themselves in prison as a protest.
Germans in league with anti-Israel groups should always make us shudder....
You nailed it...and not just Jews...feminists, environmentalists, race baiters and the entire left...their first issue is liberalism.
Two thousand years ago, another religion claimed to take the place of the Jewish People. In doing so, it gave them a new identity: that of free-thinking, subversive, irreverent, iconoclastic rebels. And this is exactly how most people in the world today (including Jews and "pro-Jewish" people) see them. Judaism has become a rebellion and "philo-Semitism" has become a liberal support of rebellion.
What everyone has forgotten, what everyone refuses to consider . . . is that the world did not begin a mere two thousand years ago.
From Sinai until the triumph of chrstianity, no one ever accused the Jews of being a "bad influence," of being morally deficient, or making dirty movies. Who can read about the ancient Israelites and even think of Lenny Bruce?
Here is what I am saying: the Jews need to become ancient Israelites again. You know, with Theocracy, slavery, concubinage, polygyny, and animal sacrifices??? And yes, I am 100% serious. And I say all this for the simple reason that good and evil are defined by G-d's Law (His ancient Law), not by "progress" or "enlightenment."
Ancient Israel was quite literally the greatest nation that has ever existed on this earth. And they did it without a "bill of rights." Without a Magna Carta. Without "freedom of religion." Without any of the things the most conservative "conservative" now thinks is absolutely essential to human life.
But how do we change this attitude? It seems to me that it is humanly impossible, that it would take a miracle. Because the philosophy of the entire world, both chrstian and anti-chrstian, is that the world began two thousand years ago. Chrstianity and only chrstianity represent G-d, the Bible, morality, Divine revelation, etc. That therefore all "right-thinking people" (certainly including anyone calling himself a Jew or even a philo-Semite) can only champion Jews by championing all the other "rebels" (homosexuals, abortionists, pornographers, etc.). The world doesn't even remember that there was a time when Jewishness never had any of the connotations that almost everyone today gives it.
Even in this article you have a "conservative" cheering because the homosexuals are now going to convert to "conservatism." And supposedly Jews, like homosexuals, are simply deviants whom the Left used to champion but have grown cold to.
I don't champion Jews as a decriminalized deviationists who could only come up from underground thanks to secularism. But no one understands that. It is still hard wired into almost everyone that to champion Jews one must compromise on morality. This is sick because it is precisely the Torah that defines morality, and not anything else.
What do you think "Holocaust education," as is now practiced, is about? It's to wipe out a thousand years of glorious Jewish Theocracy and turn the Jews into martyrs of secularism and atheism. The Holocaust was caused by belief in G-d (ie, chrstianity, the only "belief in G-d" recognized by anyone, chrstian or anti-chrstian). The Jewish mission becomes to destroy belief in G-d and in objective religious truth so it can be safe for "transgressors" (you know, like Torah-observant Jews) to live freely. Do you think the Jewish establishment would approve of outlawing denial that the Jews were slaves in Egypt??? They'd be all against it, in the name of "freedom," because to their mind the Egyptian slavery of the Jews is just another "backwards doctrine of chrstianity." To them the Holocaust is the central event in Jewish and world history because it casts the Jews as victims of G-d, and G-d as an anti-Semite.
Why is it no one seems to see this but me? Is it because I'm crazy?
Just as independent, non-Theistically-based morality must be destroyed, so must secular "philo-semitism." Secular "philo-Semitism" is a fraud. Because its definition of "Semitism" is irreverent rebellion, and its definition of anti-Semitism is limited to reverence and traditionalism. That's why to them, a left wing anti-Semite doesn't exist.
Before signing off, I want to apologize to all good pro-Jewish Fundamentalist chrstians (who are unimplicated in historical chrstian anti-Semitism and who are almost the only non-Jewish people in the world who primarily define Jewishness by the Bible) for the cruelty in pointing out the true historical situation. None of this is their fault, and they are the ultimate victims of all this.
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