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Witness: Rear of plane was smoking before impact (Ethiopian Air)
AP ^ | Mar 11, 2019 | Staff

Posted on 03/11/2019 1:42:38 PM PDT by Tea Party Terrorist

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To: Blueflag

Rather than guess I’d like to read what the final performance characteristics were as recorded in the Black Box - I’ll have some popcorn as the MSM-LSD bunch conjectures.


41 posted on 03/11/2019 2:54:59 PM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: Tea Party Terrorist
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!

"It's a Chinese...SABOTGAGE!!!"

42 posted on 03/11/2019 2:55:15 PM PDT by montag813 ("This is Montag, Block 813...")
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To: 1Old Pro

Ala.’Fate is the Hunter’


43 posted on 03/11/2019 2:55:24 PM PDT by Fish Speaker (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: Moonman62

maybe it had one of the same surprise birthday presents as the other crash, in the cargo hold before it exploded. Other eyewitness reports, dozens of them (AP) say fire was trailing the plane and it was dropping clothes in luggage. Made horrible noises and straining sounds. This will be well covered up but if I were Boeing I would demand very deep analysis and not let this be cleaned up to preserve religious sensitivities


44 posted on 03/11/2019 3:25:04 PM PDT by epluribus_2 (he had the best mom - rever.)
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To: Tea Party Terrorist

bookmark


45 posted on 03/11/2019 3:25:40 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: JohnBrowdie

haha :D


46 posted on 03/11/2019 3:26:11 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: Celtic Conservative
TransAsia Airways Flight 235
47 posted on 03/11/2019 3:37:45 PM PDT by csvset (illegitimi non carborundum)
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To: Tea Party Terrorist

I loaded flight tracker carbon data into my personal climate model, ran a few simulations, and confirmed the Ethiopian airplane crashed because of climate change.


48 posted on 03/11/2019 3:44:31 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: epluribus_2

Juan Brown, Blancolirio channel on youtube has a preliminay look at the crash. He also has good information on the Lion Air crash. Juan is a 777 pilot. He does very good analysis.


49 posted on 03/11/2019 3:45:31 PM PDT by VTenigma (The Democrat party is the party of the mathematically challenged)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Unfortunately there are no objective observers, so we may never know the truth.


50 posted on 03/11/2019 3:51:15 PM PDT by Tea Party Terrorist (A bad peace is better than a good war.)
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To: Tea Party Terrorist

If you don’t mind tiger sharks they are pretty nice.


51 posted on 03/11/2019 3:54:33 PM PDT by willyd (I for one welcome our NSA overlords)
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To: csvset

That’s the one. Caught on dashcam. And when you catch video of a plane crashing on a dashcam, you know it ain’t gonna be pretty.

CC

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52 posted on 03/11/2019 3:59:09 PM PDT by Celtic Conservative (My cats are more amusing than 200 channels worth of TV.)
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To: willyd

Even in the Red Sea? (Supposed to the best scuba diving on earth)


53 posted on 03/11/2019 4:02:18 PM PDT by Tea Party Terrorist (A bad peace is better than a good war.)
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To: Tea Party Terrorist
Unfortunately there are no objective observers, so we may never know the truth.

IIRC when a commercial airliners crashes officials of the country where the aircraft was built participate in the investigation. In this case that would mean the NTSB and/or the FAA. So even if there's more than one report (which,IIRC,is usually the case in situations like this) the NTSB report will be seen as having enormous credibility.

54 posted on 03/11/2019 4:08:17 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Mitt Romney: Bringing Massachusetts Values To The Great State Of Utah.)
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To: SubMareener

Show me the passenger list and affiliations


55 posted on 03/11/2019 4:17:02 PM PDT by ronnie raygun (nic dip.com)
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To: Blueflag
The plane “rotated” eh? Which axis?

Probably longitudinal.

56 posted on 03/11/2019 4:27:21 PM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker (For 'tis the sport to have the engineer hoist with his own petard., -- Hamlet, Act 3, Scene 4)
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To: shotgun
The flight tracker shows a drop in altitude from 8,000+ feet to 7,000+ feet and then climbing to 9,000+ feet, that would have brought it dangerously close to hitting the ground since the surrounding elevation of the land is above 7,000 feet

The Lion Air 737 Max 8 also had extreme changes in pitch/climb rate. Something like 26 times in 10 minutes.

Apparently there's safety system that prevents the airplane from pitching up too sharply and will apply forward stick (nose down) to prevent a stall.

There is a way to disable the system, but in the case of Lion Air, the pilots didn't recognize the problem as being with the system, so they never disabled it.

57 posted on 03/11/2019 4:31:29 PM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker (For 'tis the sport to have the engineer hoist with his own petard., -- Hamlet, Act 3, Scene 4)
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To: ronnie raygun

Why should I do that and deprive you of the thrill of searching the Internet for yourself?


58 posted on 03/11/2019 4:39:02 PM PDT by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR)
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To: SubMareener

from gloBULL warming insiders, Clmate Home:

11 March: Climate Home: Environment community mourns victims of Ethiopian Airlines crash
UN staff and delegates to the UN Environment Assembly, which opened in Nairobi on Monday, were among 157 to die on the way from Addis Ababa
By Karl Mathiesen
At least 22 UN staff died in an Ethiopian Airlines plane crash on Sunday, along with many delegates travelling to a major environment summit, according to officials…

Acting head of UN Environment Joyce Msuya: “Many of those that lost their lives were en route to provide support and participate in the UN Environment Assembly. We lost UN staff, youth delegates travelling to the assembly, seasoned scientists, members of academia and other partners”...
https://www.climatechangenews.com/2019/03/11/environment-community-mourns-victims-ethiopian-airlines-plane-crash/


59 posted on 03/11/2019 5:24:44 PM PDT by MAGAthon
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To: MAGAthon

11 Mar: CNN: Ethiopian airlines plane crash
By Eric Levenson, Rob Picheta, Euan McKirdy, Jessie Yeung and Meg Wagner
(scroll down) World Bank employee identified as one of the victims
Max Thabiso Edkins, a World Bank employee, was one of the 157 victims of Sunday’s crash. He was en route to the United Nations Environment Assembly and One Planet Summit in Nairobi, Kenya.
A 35-year old national of both Germany and South Africa, he joined the World Bank Group in January 2013. He served as a communications officer for Connect4Climate, a multi-partner communications platform that advocates for climate action.

Kristalina Georgieva, the interim president of the World Bank Group, released this statement:
“We were devastated to learn that we lost a cherished colleague in the plane crash in Ethiopia. Max was deeply committed to the fight against climate change and brought tremendous creativity, energy and passion to his work. Our deepest sympathies go to his family and loved ones, and to those of the other victims of this tragedy.”...
https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-news/ethiopian-airlines-plane-crash/index.html


60 posted on 03/11/2019 5:37:37 PM PDT by MAGAthon
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