Posted on 03/26/2019 2:40:39 PM PDT by CaptainK
They are grounded for commercial use. They cans still be flown with the right permits and approval for maintenance reasons, or in this case to get them to a airport designed to store/service them as most major airports have very little space to store airplanes long term.
Does Boeing do their flight control algos and coding in China?
Boeing will get it sorted out, and in 5 years they’ll be making a lot of money off the MAX. They just rushed it to market before it was ready, and cut a few corners along the way.
Heads will roll, but it will likely be scapegoats rather than the real responsible parties. Maybe a big number fine from the feds, but not enough to really hurt the company.
Sure why not fly unsafe aircraft over people populated areas. Sounds like a great idea.
Not understanding. Did not Boeing put them in Boeing planes? Are you blaming this on a supplier?
Emergency landings happen every day. The 737 Max is safe and a great airplane. The pilots need to know how to fly it. 1,000 hours minimum, that is minimum. 1,000 hours. 2,000 hour civilian is what I would require.
Thanks for the info. It still seems a bit insane to allow them to be flown, since it puts the people on the ground at risk.
Totally unrelated to the MCAS.
Media malpractice.
1,500 by law.
Is it? I am very curious? I went looking and could only find reference that it is in house programming. In this article they mention how Boeing compiles old code snippets together to assemble software for new systems.
https://www.zdnet.com/article/boeing-737-max-software-patches-can-only-do-so-much/
Just like a car... There are still engine management systems controlled by the aircraft software. When a car engine dies nowdays, it is usually the computerized engine management not the engine it’s self.
Do you have some reference or a link to what you posted? Everything I've seen sounds a whole lot less dramatic.
Granted this is another 737 MAX having an emergency shortly after takeoff, from a tropical environment. But no suggestion of the MCAS being related.
Here's what I've heard; The Federal Aviation Administration confirmed the emergency landing in a statement.
“The crew of Southwest Airlines Flight 8701, a Boeing 737 MAX aircraft, declared an emergency after the aircraft experienced a reported engine problem while departing from Orlando International Airport in Florida about 2:50 p.m. today,” the statement said. “The aircraft returned and landed safely in Orlando. No passengers were aboard the aircraft, which was being ferried to Victorville, Calif., for storage. The FAA is investigating.”
Sorry I forgot the /sarc tag.
Fact remains, A “mechanical engine” cannot operate without a properly functioning “engine management system”. Fuel supply and monitoring, Electrical sensors and monitoring, engine status sensors, Etc. And proper software to handle the input and output of all these electronic sensors and systems.
Just one broken wire or bad connection anywhere in the plane on the right system could have killed the engine. A cracked circuit board could have killed the engine. “Engine failure” is hardly ever the mechanical engine it’s self. Mechanical engine failures are usually described as “catastrophic engine failure”.
The term engine failure is in reality a broad term that does not rule out and omit all the other management systems as a possible cause.
And now I need to apologize... The previous reply was supposed to go to a different comment. lol
I am curious though what code base they really are using. If it is snippets of old code it could be based on Redhat. Redhat runs all of our submarines.
My bad. 1,500.
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