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A Recent Supreme Court Decision Has Opened A Front For Hotelsí War on Homesharing
Townhall.com ^ | May 6, 2019 | Andrew Wilford

Posted on 05/06/2019 2:17:47 PM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 05/06/2019 2:17:47 PM PDT by Kaslin
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Since most large metro areas have piled tax upon tax on hotel fees in order to build stadiums and the like. the little guy looking to list his AirBNB is SOL.


2 posted on 05/06/2019 2:23:25 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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Taxes are getting ridiculous but should be equal responsibility of everyone.


3 posted on 05/06/2019 2:40:06 PM PDT by Reno89519 (No Amnesty! No Catch-and-Release! Just Say No to All Illegal Aliens! Arrest & Deport!)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

The taxing as a hotel room I can understand, don’t like it but I get it. It’s the extending of regulations to AirBnB that’s the problem. It would be analogous to the regulation that brick and mortar restaurants must have restroom facilities and the extending that to food trucks. Besides AirBnBs are pretty much self regulated, a couple bad reviews can sink you.


4 posted on 05/06/2019 2:45:59 PM PDT by scope721
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Hotel taxes and fees are like a Tarriff on visiting non-locals.


5 posted on 05/06/2019 2:47:07 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: scope721

The issue in Los Angeles and some other major cities is that people are buying apartment buildings, evicting all the tenants, then turning them into de facto hotels, renting out the units through AirBnB while avoiding any of the regulations and taxes on hotels. This cuts the rental housing stock, driving up costs for renters and pricing some out of the market, with all that entails.


6 posted on 05/06/2019 2:58:48 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("The rat always knows when he's in with weasels."--Tom Waits)
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That could result in the rules affecting Airbnb not taking into account the industry’s uniqueness, and failing to find a long-term solution that recognizes and fosters new business models that benefit consumers.

This argument makes no sense. I have a unique business model where I should be obligated to pay no taxes whatsoever. Does that make me a credible player in the industry whose concerns should be addressed by my state legislature? LOL.

7 posted on 05/06/2019 3:05:16 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Out on the road today I saw a Deadhead sticker on a Cadillac.")
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

That may be a good place for a narrowly defined regulation as it impacts the stand alone AirBnBs, such as no more one rental per 10,20,30 (pick a number) total units to owned by a single or related entity.


8 posted on 05/06/2019 3:07:28 PM PDT by scope721
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The taxing as a hotel room I can understand, don’t like it but I get it. It’s the extending of regulations to AirBnB that’s the problem. It would be analogous to the regulation that brick and mortar restaurants must have restroom facilities and the extending that to food trucks.

There's no compelling reason to AirBnB any differently than a hotel room when it comes to taxes and government regulations. Your analogy isn't really a good one. A better analogy would be a state sales tax that is applied to restaurants and retail stores that sell food ... and the food truck owner is claiming he should be exempt from that sales tax.

9 posted on 05/06/2019 3:08:19 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Out on the road today I saw a Deadhead sticker on a Cadillac.")
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It’s not the taxes that’s the issue. ItS the regs. How often should the BnB have a health and safety inspection. After every client?


10 posted on 05/06/2019 3:15:00 PM PDT by scope721
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Some folks do buy houses for the sole purpose of renting them out as airbnb. Separating those from the rest of the folks is the problem to be solved.


11 posted on 05/06/2019 3:16:21 PM PDT by fruser1
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They’re trying to help the special interests and screw teh little guy.

This rule needs to be a statute.


12 posted on 05/06/2019 3:30:37 PM PDT by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters.)
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How often should the BnB have a health and safety inspection. After every client?

If I own a hotel in the same state and town as the AirBnB, how often do I have to get a health and safety inspection?

There's the answer to your question.

13 posted on 05/06/2019 3:35:33 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Out on the road today I saw a Deadhead sticker on a Cadillac.")
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Airbnb already collects these taxes and remits them to the state. The guest pays for them to Airbnb just like he does at hotels which also remit them to the state.

The host does not have to collect anything including the rent. The guest pays Airbnb for everything with his credit card and the money is wired to the bank account of the host the day after the guest arrives.


14 posted on 05/06/2019 3:56:00 PM PDT by Uncle Lonny
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Although it is portrayed as the “little guy,” in fact most AirBNBs here are commercial operations, where companies buy up housing, convert it to defacto hotel rental pools, and then run it through AirBNB.


15 posted on 05/06/2019 4:09:30 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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>> It would be analogous to the regulation that brick and mortar restaurants must have restroom facilities and the extending that to food trucks.

It's analogous to business licensing, not restrooms or handicap access.

BUT it makes me wonder if a person opens his home to a renter, can a lawyer use the ADA laws to get some money if the bathroom or stairs are not handicapped accessible?

16 posted on 05/06/2019 4:22:19 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Denounce DUAC - The Democrats Un-American Activists Committee)
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One of the things liberals don’t like about the tax sharing agreements is that it doesn’t give them the names and addresses of home-sharers. And these people want to hit every home-sharer with business license fees and other costs, not just collect the hotel tax.


17 posted on 05/06/2019 4:38:53 PM PDT by tbw2
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BUT it makes me wonder if a person opens his home to a renter, can a lawyer use the ADA laws to get some money if the bathroom or stairs are not handicapped accessible?


Additionally, in the United States, the Americans with Disabilities Act and state disability access laws may apply to some hosts with five or more listings.

So if you own 4 or less rental properties you are exempt from the ADA laws. If you own more you best CYA...


18 posted on 05/06/2019 4:57:43 PM PDT by Vipper (he other two got it done)
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5 property listings or 5 dates soliciting the same property?

5 separate rooms in one dwelling or 5 distinct addresses?


19 posted on 05/06/2019 5:12:21 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Denounce DUAC - The Democrats Un-American Activists Committee)
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5 distinct addresses/units. Each property whether rented as a whole unit/house/condo or 1 to xx rooms only rented in one home is considered one of your rental properties.

If you stay under 5 it has many benefits. Schedule E rental income or Schedule C if you choice to detail out expenses (very useful if doing AirBnB’s or HomeAway). Not bound by ADA or FHA rules. At 5 properties or more you are considered a commerical business in almost all states, thus higher property taxes, more paperwork and tons of codes to follow.


20 posted on 05/06/2019 6:38:36 PM PDT by Vipper (he other two got it done)
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