Skip to comments.Wales dubbed a ‘Remain nation’ after EU vote
Posted on 05/27/2019 3:36:16 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
Wales remain-supporting parties outstripped their Brexit-backing counterparts in Sundays (26 May) election results, prompting the leader of the principalitys nationalist party to declare it a Remain nation. In 2016, Wales voted alongside England to leave the EU.
Although Nigel Farages newborn Brexit Party won 32.5% of the vote in Wales, advocates for a second referendum on EU membership (Liberal Democrats, Greens, Change UK and Plaid Cymru) mustered 42.4%.
That led Plaid Cymru leader Adam Price to say that Wales, which voted Leave three years ago, is now a Remain nation again, if you tally up the votes for the avowedly pro-Remain parties versus the pro-Brexit parties.
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Price’s pro-Welsh-independence party took 19.6% of the vote, beating Labour’s 15.3% for the first time in a Wales-wide election.Plaid Cymru (English: /ˌplaɪd ˈkʌmri/ PLYDE KUM-ree; Welsh: [plaɪd ˈkəmri]; officially Plaid Cymru – Party of Wales, often referred to simply as Plaid) is a social-democratic political party in Wales advocating Welsh independence from the United Kingdom within the European Union.
Is this like America’s democrats?
Keep pushing for a re-do until they get the result they want?
This means nothing when we dont know what the rest of the voters wanted. Not all “leave” voters might have wanted to vote for a brand new party led by Nigel Farage after all. Seen in context, the Brexit party did stunningly well in Wales.
My Welsh relatives voted with their feet (literally) to exit in 1650. Walked to Bristol and boarded a ship for the New World.
The Welsh are known for welching on a deal. It’s where the word came from.
Must be funny math.
“Brexit Party comes top in 19 out of Wales’ 22 council areas”
19 of 22 Council seats is domination for BRExit.
and for the EU parliment it is 2 of 4 seats.
“Nigel Farage’s party wins two seats, with one each for Plaid Cymru and Labour”
Wow... A clear Man verus Woman split !!!
The Brexit Party - Nathan Gill and James Wells
Labour - Jackie Jones
Plaid Cymru - Jill Evans
Very low turnout also. Only 37%
“At 37%, it was up more than 5% on last time. Even so, that means fewer than two in five of us actually expressed an opinion.
There may be lots of reasons for that: Brexit fatigue, a tradition of low turnout at European Parliament elections, a failure to realise they were taking place.
But whatever the reason, its clear the silent majority has remained silent. And its always dodgy to claim to know the thoughts of people who choose not to share them.
Of those who did vote - and this is a very small sample of the electorate - they are split almost down the middle.
By my maths, the pro-Brexit parties (whom I have counted as the Brexit Party, the Conservatives and UKIP) got a total of 353,557.
The Remain parties (Im counting Plaid Cymru, the Liberal Democrats, Change UK and the Greens) got 354,805.
Why am I not including Labour in these sums? Because of the partys ambivalence - the party supported a referendum only in the event of a bad Brexit and no general election.”
Wales results - official
As we predicted, the results as officially announced were:
Brexit Party - 271,404 - 32.5% - Two MEPs - Nathan Gill and James Wells
Plaid Cymru - 163,928 - 19.6% - One MEP - Jill Evans
Labour - 127,833 - 15.3% - One MEP - Jackie Jones
Lib Dems - 113,885 - 13.6%
Conservatives - 54,587 - 6.5%
Greens - 52,660 - 6.3%
UKIP - 27,566 - 3.3%
Change UK - 24,332 - 2.9%
(Rejected ballot papers - 5,655)
So, it turns out the men of Harlech will yeild after all....
The parliamentary system of government is an archaic hodge-podge of losers and desperados.
It sounds like a description of the US Congress to me...
While I sympathize with the remainers, this vote was inconclusive at best (for the overall union of four nations) and a Brexit victory for Wales in particular. Wales voted with England for leave at 53%. That number may have gone down, but it’s unlikely to have gone down to 40% or lower.
In Scotland it is clear cut - 62% voted REMAIN and now we have 62% again voting Remain (SNP + Greens + LibDems + Change UK) versus 17% voting leave (Brexit + UKIP).
Wales needs to live by its confusion and join England in being cast out where there will be much gnashing of teeth.
Scotland needs to live by its decision and stay in the EU
Only as a result of the Democrats attempting to rework our electoral and legislative processes into a Parliamentary system. Sixty years ago our Legislative Branch embraced and upheld comity above all else.
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