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Jim Hanson: Iran’s aggression may force Trump to launch military attack
Fox News ^ | Jun14 2019 | Jim Hanson

Posted on 06/14/2019 7:43:19 AM PDT by rintintin

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To: RedStateRocker
Please do not misunderstand me or my reply.

It is not my point to advocate military action nor is it my point that we should absolutely refrain from military action. My idea is that we identify America's national interests and decide whether they are worth military action and at what cost.

The reply is an attempt to consider both of those questions.

The conclusion is yours, you have expressed it well.


41 posted on 06/14/2019 8:18:18 AM PDT by nathanbedford (attack, repeat, attack! Bull Halsey)
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To: rintintin
Issues was because of the weakness of Obama. I am not agreeing with the invasion as much as disagreeing with the failure to fully engaged and completely finish the job.

My belief is no country should go to at without the goal of utterly obliterating the enemy. Destroy her will to fight, demolish their war machines, buildings and infrastructure, kill as many of them as possible so they and the world will understand that trifling with us can never work to their advantage.

Whoever came up with the policy of “proportionate response” to aggression is the world's biggest moron. If an enemy swats us with a feather, we need to drop a mountain on them with the promise of doubling our response next time.

Will the world think us insane, blood thirsty Savage? Yup, but they will think long and very hard before they attempt to harm us.the only caveat is we must never be the one to strike first.

42 posted on 06/14/2019 8:18:50 AM PDT by billyboy15
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To: rintintin
I am not agreeing with the invasion as much as disagreeing with the failure to fully engaged and completely finish the job.

My belief is no country should go to at without the goal of utterly obliterating the enemy. Destroy her will to fight, demolish their war machines, buildings and infrastructure, kill as many of them as possible so they and the world will understand that trifling with us can never work to their advantage.

Whoever came up with the policy of “proportionate response” to aggression is the world's biggest moron. If an enemy swats us with a feather, we need to drop a mountain on them with the promise of doubling our response next time.

Will the world think us insane, blood thirsty Savage? Yup, but they will think long and very hard before they attempt to harm us.the only caveat is we must never be the one to strike first.

43 posted on 06/14/2019 8:20:39 AM PDT by billyboy15
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To: fruser1

That is a good idea. Mysteriously vanishing subs also provide scavenging Barracudas with a free meal


44 posted on 06/14/2019 8:20:58 AM PDT by BigEdLB (BigEdLB, Russian BOT, At your service)
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To: wastoute

Fox is not a purist conservative site.

By harping on the names suggested you clearly indicate you are interested in being spoon fed conservative propaganda like CNN propagates leftwing propaganda.

The reason there is no such site is because the numbers is inadequate to support the costs.

Roger Ailes was a super conservative who realized that simple fact when he created Fox News


45 posted on 06/14/2019 8:23:24 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12)There were Democrat espionage operations on Republican candidates)
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46 posted on 06/14/2019 8:25:29 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (This space for rent...)
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To: nathanbedford

They aren’t worth any action nor any cost unless and until there is credible evidence of imminent attack.

And to *ME* that means evidence good enough to convict of murder in a court of law.

An attack on American assets, retaliate, and retaliate with sufficient force to ensure 100% elimination of the threat (and demonstrate what our retribution looks like); beyond that, not our circus, not our monkeys.

The purpose of our military is to guard our borders, and until we can and begin to do that the form and actions of any other government anywhere aren’t worth one taxpayer cent or drop of American blood.

Your points are also well expressed, thank you.


47 posted on 06/14/2019 8:27:25 AM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca. Deport all illegals. Abolish the DEA, IRS and ATF,.)
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To: rintintin
We’re Saddams WNDs a threat to US?

Was Germany's heavy water experiments a threat to us? They did not have the bomb either, they were trying and, given time, they might well have got there.

I don't think Nazi Germany has much more to do with the current situation then did Saddam Hussein's Iraq, except as I mentioned in my reply, but nuclear weapons in anybody's hands is always a threat to our national interest.

When mounted on ICBMs, doubly so, and the idea of defending borders as a means of national safety becomes 20th century nostalgia.

Whether that situation requires military action must be carefully judged, it is not a matter subject to axiom.


48 posted on 06/14/2019 8:27:42 AM PDT by nathanbedford (attack, repeat, attack! Bull Halsey)
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To: fruser1

Wasn’t a sub. These were Limpet mines attached while the ships were in Iranian ports. Watch the video of Iranians taking a mine off a tanker while at sea.


49 posted on 06/14/2019 8:28:42 AM PDT by DownInFlames (Galsd)
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To: nathanbedford

After Trump, our situation may become so dire we will pray it’s the Chinese.


50 posted on 06/14/2019 8:29:52 AM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast (You may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you...)
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To: TexasKamaAina

Until a warship is sunk, don’t get involved. Let the tanker flag nation take action.


51 posted on 06/14/2019 8:30:35 AM PDT by DownInFlames (Galsd)
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To: rintintin

Title should read:

Iran’s aggression may cause their munitions stockpiles to spontaneously explode!

Remember Israel and Iran’s Nuke paperwork...


52 posted on 06/14/2019 8:30:49 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: bert
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53 posted on 06/14/2019 8:31:17 AM PDT by AAABEST (NY/DC/LA media/political industrial complex DELENDA EST)
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To: billyboy15
Whoever came up with the policy of “proportionate response” to aggression is the world's biggest moron. If an enemy swats us with a feather, we need to drop a mountain on them with the promise of doubling our response next time.

The last Presidents who were allowed to win a war were FDR & Truman. Maybe that's why they are still considered the greatest generation.

54 posted on 06/14/2019 8:31:52 AM PDT by rhombus10
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To: rintintin

No it wasn’t. Hawaii was not a state at the time. It was however an assault of aggression without a declaration of war.


55 posted on 06/14/2019 8:34:57 AM PDT by DownInFlames (Galsd)
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To: nathanbedford
It looks you you stay up all night writing a damn novel then dropped it into an unsuspecting thread.

WTF

56 posted on 06/14/2019 8:35:51 AM PDT by AAABEST (NY/DC/LA media/political industrial complex DELENDA EST)
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To: DownInFlames

Yes, saw that. I wasn’t recommending it as a like for like counter attack.


57 posted on 06/14/2019 8:36:07 AM PDT by fruser1
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To: AAABEST

You are a deluded purist incapable of intellectually understanding or comprehending anything out side your very narrow and dogmatic view of the world.


58 posted on 06/14/2019 8:37:26 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12)There were Democrat espionage operations on Republican candidates)
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To: rockinqsranch
The Iranian Regime would like nothing more than to have the U.S. put the World on their side by attacking them.

And that is exactly why the President is proceeding with non-military actions like sanctions and economic pressures. Other much less obvious exchanges may already going on in the background, not enough to be declared an "act of war", but plenty to let the Iranians know we are onto them.

It would be MUCH more simple to let the the other nations in the Middle East, most particularly Saudi Arabia, engage the Iranians directly, and the US only coming to their aid, much as the US came to the aid of Great Britain, and declared war on Germany only after its Axis partner, Imperial Japan, crunched our Pacific fleet at Pearl Harbor.

Do not wake the sleeping giant.

59 posted on 06/14/2019 8:38:13 AM PDT by alloysteel (The difference between real life and fiction? Fiction has to make sense and follow some logic.)
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To: nathanbedford
If the fails to take military action, he risks economic disaster and eventual nuclear war. If he uses military force, but fails to get the proportions exactly right, he risks defeat in 2020 and a socialist take over of our country. After Trump, the deluge. After Trump, the risks of economic and nuclear winter are not diminished in a new dark age brought down upon us by any one of the 23 America hating, Islam loving, socialist obsessed, arrogant, elitist candidates. After Trump, the Chinese.

This is the challenge with our Constitution. Foreign powers can simply "wait out" our Commander In Chief and help elect one they like.

60 posted on 06/14/2019 8:38:16 AM PDT by rhombus10
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