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Oberlin College's FAQ in lawsuit etc.
Oberlin College ^ | June 19, 2019 | Oberlin College

Posted on 06/21/2019 4:24:07 PM PDT by xxqqzz

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To: xxqqzz

Either these morons are not listening to their attorneys or their attorneys are morons.


21 posted on 06/21/2019 5:09:55 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (Freep mail me if you want to be on my Fingerstyle Acoustic Guitar Ping List)
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To: freeandfreezing

They show their ignorance by claiming it was a free speech issue. It wasn’t.


22 posted on 06/21/2019 5:12:57 PM PDT by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: xxqqzz

Oberlin College is a case study in management failure.


23 posted on 06/21/2019 5:20:35 PM PDT by ptsal
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To: traderrob6

I guess their point of view is shoplifters have a right to beat up shop keepers who try to detain them. Does this only go for small stores or can you beat up a uniformed security guard?

They also claim that the Gibson’s initial offer was they would need $30M to settle the case. They imply the reason the case was not settled was the Gibson’s demands were unreasonable. I had assumed it was Oberlin who refused to settle. I wonder if that is true.

You can see from this document their attitude which probably antagonized the jury and helped lead to the large award.


24 posted on 06/21/2019 5:42:51 PM PDT by xxqqzz
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Why did the trial end up with such a large verdict against Oberlin?

The jury has spoken, and we have listened. While we respect the jury’s service and we believe there are things to learn from the verdict, we do not believe that the jury applied past legal precedent with respect to the legal claims in this case. All of those factors will be part of our consideration as we determine the best path forward, and part of any next steps in the legal process.

The jury does not apply past legal precedent. The jury is the finder of fact.

25 posted on 06/21/2019 8:07:16 PM PDT by Haiku Guy (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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From their FAQ: “Yes. Some senior administrators and faculty did use unprofessional language in a few text messages and emails well after the protest.”

My guess is those messages were representative of the prevailing attitude of the leadership of the school - notice, there’s no mention of any administrative or faculty support for a member of the university community that had been wronged (as established by the plea deal that the perps signed onto).

Reminds me a lot of the statement by the Duke faculty condemning the lacrosse team members on a totally bogus charges - the point in both cases is not that the respective staffs are shot through with people with their collective heads up their collective arses, but that the sentiments expressed are indicative of the ethos of the universities - totally outrageous claims are allowed to stand without internal objection (at least until there’s a legal reckoning).


26 posted on 06/21/2019 8:58:18 PM PDT by Stosh
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(hat tip relictele)

Liberals have attempted to engineer a world for themselves in which they are free from consequences: abortion, homosexuality, pedophilia, depravity, drugs, alcohol, illegitimacy, overspending, etc.

They couch it in all manner of anodyne terminology: choice, pride, sexual freedom. If they can’t make it a positive, they attack anyone who disapproves as a prude, judgmental, a hater, etc.

Among the many problems they created for themselves was the parasite class. These are people who aren’t all that interested in the high-minded talk - they just want their check. Or booze. Or drugs. The three Oberlin ‘students’ were lab-perfect parasites.

Violent ones.

The mass delusion has also resulted in the current state of affairs in which amoral people believe they are the most moral among us. They’ve gone from ‘leave us alone’ to ‘we won’t leave you alone.’


27 posted on 06/22/2019 3:50:13 AM PDT by Liz ( Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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It is entirely possible Oberlin's explanation of the incident (stated here) and its institutional practices may violate federal laws that might include, but not be limited to:

<><> Title 18 U.S.C. §1341, Mail Fraud, 18 U.S.C.§1001, Presenting a False Document to an Agent of the US Government for funding (may involve several felonies and could include forgery);

<><> 18 U.S.C.§1027 False statements and concealment of facts in relation to documents required by ERISA enacted 1974 and other possible offenses including civil and/or criminal RICO violations.

<><> 18 U.S.C. §§1961-68 (RICO Act)18 U.S.C. §1001 (making false Statements to Agents of the US Government,

<><> 18 U.S.C. §241(Conspiracies Against Civil Rights). Violation of Civil Rights under Color of law and conspiracy. Conspiring with others to violate 4th amendment rights.

<><> Possibly full investigations centering on RICO conspiracies under 18 U.S.C. §1962(c) could be warranted because (1) the persons (2) were employed by or associated with a public enterprise (3) that engaged in or affected interstate commerce and that (4) the persons operated or managed the enterprise (5) through a “pattern” (6) of racketeering activity, and (7) the taxpayers were injured by reason of the “pattern” of racketeering activity.

<><> Alleged Offenses could include Violation of Rights – which prohibits in relevant part, “two or more persons (from conspiring) to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District

<><> Title 18 U.S.C. §2 41 – Conspiracy Against Constitutional mandates in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or because of having so exercised the same . . .” See, 18 U.S.C. §241.

Voters should demand the following agencies commence investigations at once:
<><> FBI — Wire Fraud Division
<><> IRS-Fraud Unit
<><> Department of Justice’s Office of the Inspector General,
<><> Department of Commerce’s Office of Inspector General.
<><> DOJ’s Criminal Division— Public Integrity Section
<><> DOJ Criminal Division—Organized Crime and Gang Section.

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U.S. Department of Justice
950 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW
Washington, DC 20530-0001

Comment Line: 202-353-1555 Switchboard: 202-514-2000

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28 posted on 06/22/2019 3:52:35 AM PDT by Liz ( Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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TAX-PAYING AMERICANS BEING BILKED BY PUBLICLY-FUNDED EDUCATORS
NEED TO EMPLOY RICO LAWS TO NAIL EDUCATORS ENGAGED IN PUBLIC CORRUPTION

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CASE IN POINT The state of Georgia tried convicted and jailed 27 corrupt educators under this law.....
<><> for falsely taking public money,
<><> for falsifying official school records, and so on.

BACKSTORY The 1980 Georgia General Assembly was concerned about the increasing sophistication of various criminal elements on the public payroll (and those in elective and appointive office). the increasing sophistication of various criminal elements on the public payroll (and those in elective and appointive office). The Georgia General Assembly then adopted the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (RICO), patterned after a similar federal law. (RICO is routinely used to try to prove that a legal business was being used for illegal means, and, in at its inception, RICO was used to prosecute drug traffickers or organized crime members).

In recent years prosecutors have applied RICO to crooked government officials: (1) those accused of using their public offices for personal gain, and, (2) tax-paid officials of govt agencies using public monies to flout the law. To bring a case under Georgias RICO law, there must be at least two underlying felonies such as fraud, bribery, witness tampering (among other felonies). RICO allows prosecutors to include multiple defendants charged with various crimes in the blanket indictment, and to charge that govt employees, publicy-funded and publicly-sanctioned entities were allegedly part of an ongoing criminal enterprise.

EXAMPLE A govt official commits two felonies by (1) accepting, and, (2) filing falsified documents.

ITEM---Any public official using tax dollars to flout that law is a lawbreaker.

ITEM-- in cases where govt officials on the public payroll not giving public notice is a violation at the federal level of the 1946 Administrative Procedure Act, which requires notice in the Federal Register. Laws demand that taxpayers have the opportunity to submit views in writing.

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If proof is established that RICOed criminal public officials impaired the region's commercial and economic activity, that could also be prosecutable under the Hobbs Act.

29 posted on 06/22/2019 3:53:13 AM PDT by Liz ( Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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To: David in Cal
I came close to attending Oberlin. Sadly, I do not believe their statement.

Sadly, you probably should have.

30 posted on 06/22/2019 4:03:18 AM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: TBP
Michelle Malkin’s alma mater.


31 posted on 06/22/2019 6:09:41 PM PDT by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters.)
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