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New Details On Russian Submarine Fire Emerge Along With An Intriguing Schematic (Updated)
The Drive ^ | July 3, 2019 | Joseph Trevithick and Tyler RogowayJuly

Posted on 07/03/2019 8:01:08 PM PDT by Widget Jr

"Krasnaya Zvezda, the official newspaper of the Russian Ministry of Defense, has included a heretofore unseen drawing of the Project 09852 Belgorod, a heavily modified Oscar II-class submarine outfitted for various "special projects" missions, in its latest report about a fire that killed 14 sailors onboard a still-unnamed Russian submarine on Monday. Russia officially launched the still-under-construction Belgorod, which is presently the world's longest submarine, in April 2019. At the same time, new details regarding the July 1st accident have begun to trickle out, although they are limited in number and some are unconfirmed in nature."

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"We have no way of knowing whether this means that the Belgorod was in some way involved in the incident. There are no reports that this submarine has put to sea for any period of time for any reason since April 2019, though details about the boat and the progress of its construction are extremely limited. The Kremlin officially plans to commission it sometime in 2020."

"Some earlier reports from Russian media outlets, citing unnamed individuals, had suggested that one of the Russian Navy's other submarine motherships was involved some way in the incident on Monday. Those stories specifically named the modified Project 667BDRM Delfin-class ballistic missile submarine BS-64 Podmoskovye and the Project 09786 BS-136 Orenburg, a converted Project 667BDR Delta III-class ballistic missile submarine, both of which are understood to be special mission boats capable of performing this role."

"Local fishermen reported seeing Podmoskovye surface in the Barents Sea near the town of Kildin around the time of the reported fire. The rapid surfacing was quickly followed by a lot of commotion on the large mothership submarine's deck. Soon after, two tugs and a warship met it and escorted it into the Kola Bay. Russian newspaper Kommersant, citing anonymous sources, also said that Losharik had been ascending from the seabed in order to dock with Podmoskovye in a Northern Fleet training ground to the west of Kola Bay when the fire broke out."

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 201904; 20190701; barentssea; belgorod; bloggers; bs136; bs64; cablecutter; cables; clickbait; kilden; kildin; kolabay; losharik; motherships; orenburg; podmoskovye; russia; russiannavy; severomorsk; submarine
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The Drive has several articles on the accident and Russian submarines, with lots of links in each (and not too many ads, nice). This looks like a good starting point to find other articles or keywords for other searches. The accident reportedly took place off Kildin roughly ten miles east of the mouth of the Kola Bey near Severomorsk.
1 posted on 07/03/2019 8:01:08 PM PDT by Widget Jr
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To: Widget Jr

Anymore info on VP Pence’s recall to the White House yesterday? There was some chatter these two stories might be related. Anybody?


2 posted on 07/03/2019 8:03:13 PM PDT by bobby.223 (Retired up in the snowy Mountains of the American Redoubt and it's a great life!)
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To: bobby.223

AFAIK there is no new information on why Pence canceled a visit to New Hampshire, only that he did. When a Russian nuclear submarines is lost, it makes sense for the U.S. governments to pay close attention to it. So these stories could be related, but there is not enough information available yet to know.


3 posted on 07/03/2019 8:08:51 PM PDT by Widget Jr
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To: Widget Jr

Cable tapping exercise gone bad..?


4 posted on 07/03/2019 8:15:24 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: Widget Jr

Okay, thanks Widge.


5 posted on 07/03/2019 8:22:11 PM PDT by bobby.223 (Retired up in the snowy Mountains of the American Redoubt and it's a great life!)
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To: Widget Jr

Thanks for posting this. Need to go look at a map..


6 posted on 07/03/2019 8:26:20 PM PDT by MarMema (breeding tauntauns in northern Michigan - soon to be for sale!)
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To: gaijin
The accident was near Kildin Island, within Russian's 12 mile limit.
7 posted on 07/03/2019 8:28:27 PM PDT by Widget Jr
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To: Widget Jr

Kildin Island is an all time favorite of mine!


8 posted on 07/03/2019 8:48:44 PM PDT by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR)
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To: Widget Jr

What the hell were “WE” doing within “THEIR” 12 mile limit?

I am really getting sick of the Military Industrial Complex and this crap. I Have 11 GRANDCHILDREN...


9 posted on 07/03/2019 8:53:11 PM PDT by Openurmind
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The U.S. was not involved in this at all.

What are you talking about?

10 posted on 07/03/2019 9:03:19 PM PDT by Widget Jr
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To: Openurmind

When attack boats carry buoyancy charts for fresh water “12 mile limits” don’t count. Submarines go and do things you’re better off not knowing about.


11 posted on 07/03/2019 9:03:58 PM PDT by Equine1952 (Get yourself a ticket on a common mans train of thought. ))
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To: Equine1952

“adjusting” for fresh water is all tell and self explanatory...


12 posted on 07/03/2019 9:26:28 PM PDT by Openurmind
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It’s not yet clear that we were, but we very well might have been, the submarine service has been joined at the hip with intelligence since subs were invented.

I’m more interested in finding out whether it really was an accident or whether someone (possibly us or possibly someone else trying to get us blamed and start a war)attacked them.


13 posted on 07/03/2019 9:26:42 PM PDT by Farcesensitive
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To: Farcesensitive

Same here...


14 posted on 07/03/2019 9:31:49 PM PDT by Openurmind
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To: Widget Jr
Krasnaya Zvezda means red star--and I thought Russia had junked Communism.
15 posted on 07/03/2019 10:03:26 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: Widget Jr

Somebody sabotaged the “silent drive”.


16 posted on 07/03/2019 10:06:54 PM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: Fiji Hill

They have a deep state too, always had, just like us. And they are kind of buddy buddy with our deep state.


17 posted on 07/04/2019 4:19:41 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security in hatse:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: Widget Jr

It always good to see people checking with Rogoway’s “The War Zone” for relevant facts and the real info on all things miliary, instead of just going with half baked stuff from other usually misinformed sites.

The Drive is a car site that hosts The War Zone.


18 posted on 07/04/2019 5:42:05 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: Openurmind

I Have 11 GRANDCHILDREN...


So? This has nothing to do with the US, occurring in Russian territorial waters aboard questionably constructed and maintained Russian subs which are in terrible shape on a questionable mission.


19 posted on 07/04/2019 5:55:11 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: gaijin

Why would Ruskies tap an undersea cable in their territorial waters?

Practice?

Or did another country lay a cable across the path of all ships leaving the Northern Fleet’s bases?


20 posted on 07/04/2019 6:01:30 AM PDT by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120) Cure Alzheimer's!)
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