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Trump Administration Considering 'Travel Ban' On Guatemalans After Asylum Snub
NPR ^ | 25 July, 2019 | FRANCO ORDOŅEZ

Posted on 07/25/2019 2:21:57 PM PDT by BeauBo

The Trump administration is actively investigating imposing a travel ban against Guatemala unless the Central American nation takes significant steps to curb illegal migration northward.

Trump charged Guatemala with backing out on an immigration deal with the United States.

"If Guatemala doesn't take significant action to help protect our borders, then we will, of course, look at all manner of solutions to the serious crisis we face," a White House official told NPR, "whether it's a travel ban, significant actions on remittances and/or tariffs."

...Trump said Wednesday that the United States was planning to take "severe" action against the government of Guatemala after, he said, it broke a deal with the United States (about asylum claimants filing in the first safe country they reach) to serve as a safe third party country.

(Excerpt) Read more at npr.org ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: guatemala; immigration; travelban
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Guatemala is facing an upcoming election that looks close. I imagine the effects on that are being considered, as the screws are tightened on the current Administration there.

Of course, it will likely require the old Hawaiian/San Francisco District Judge to Ninth Circuit two-step, but they always seem to lose in the end. Just a harassing delay.

Guatemala's Government broke the deal, and is trying to get away with unfairly screwing the USA. President Trump is going to make them hurt for it.

1 posted on 07/25/2019 2:21:57 PM PDT by BeauBo
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Re the Ninth Circuit Judge:

Legal question: Trump has an OK ruling from the First, and a ban from the Ninth. Which controls? And, why?


2 posted on 07/25/2019 2:29:43 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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“Trump has an OK ruling from the First, and a ban from the Ninth. Which controls? And, why?”

Until a higher court deconflicts and decides (or issues a stay until it decides), both lower court rulings are in effect - so the restrictive one is operative.


3 posted on 07/25/2019 2:35:55 PM PDT by BeauBo
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Hmmm... why wouldn’t the less restrictive one be operative? What’s the doctrine justifying that?


4 posted on 07/25/2019 2:38:39 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: BeauBo
Ban all money transfers to Guatemala.
5 posted on 07/25/2019 2:39:40 PM PDT by Cowboy Bob ("Other People's Money" = The life blood of Liberalism)
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Until they do something about remittances it will continue. Maybe limit the amount that can be sent, require green cards, place a 50% tax that can be partially refunded when you file your income tax ( evil grin here)


6 posted on 07/25/2019 2:40:47 PM PDT by McGavin999 (injustice Roberts repeatedly making a mockery of the rule of law)
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To: BeauBo

Ban their bananas and avocados.

That’ll get their attention!..................


7 posted on 07/25/2019 2:42:22 PM PDT by Red Badger (Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain......................)
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Or maybe they have to get a card authorizing the transfer and who the recipient is each time they send money.


8 posted on 07/25/2019 2:44:49 PM PDT by McGavin999 (injustice Roberts repeatedly making a mockery of the rule of law)
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Can someone explain to me how a circuit court can make a ruling that applies to the entire nation instead of just its circuit? In effect circuit courts (may the ninth be infected withthe fleas of a thousand camels and camel spiders also) can rule like the supreme court until overturned by the supreme court.

I do not think this is what Dickinson, Governor Morris, Thomas Jefferson, John Adams, Thomas Paine, Edmund Randolph, James Madison, Roger Sherman, James Wilson, and George Wythe etal. envisioned. There was no mention of district courts in the Constitution. The Constitution as written was very protective of state rights. There was no nationwide Federal Judiciary. The Constitution besides guaranteeing the rights of it citizens was mostly a document limiting the power of the federal government.


9 posted on 07/25/2019 2:52:20 PM PDT by cpdiii ( canecutter, deckhand, roughneck, geologist, pilot, pharmacist THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Wouldn’t the Democrat one be the operative one?

The Republican one being placed on hold?

Bet my standard is the standard used for the past 24 months.


10 posted on 07/25/2019 2:53:54 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle ( The Great Wall of Trump ---- 100% sealing of the border. Coming soon.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

why wouldn’t the less restrictive one be operative?

It is - but it doesn’t really effect anything, because the other is in the way. The restrictive one is an actual constraint that actually causes something to change.

If you have two bosses and one says no, that is the one you are bound by.

It takes a higher court to overturn a District Court - the Circuit Court with jurisdiction over that District, or the Supreme Court. The 678 District Judges don’t duel among each other.


11 posted on 07/25/2019 3:01:19 PM PDT by BeauBo
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Hurry up Trump-DECIDE


12 posted on 07/25/2019 3:01:21 PM PDT by magna carta
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I wonder if money changed hands from the domestic enemies in America and officials in the Guatemalan government to make this change. Lots of funding and assistance is behind these caravan invader columns. How much would it take to buy off the government there to keep up the anti-American actions?
13 posted on 07/25/2019 3:09:38 PM PDT by Truth29
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STOP THE REMITTANCES----


14 posted on 07/25/2019 3:14:41 PM PDT by Liz ( Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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African migrants newly arrived at our southern border flash ‘rolls of $100 bills’
American Mirror ^ | June 16, 2019 | Kyle Olson / FR Posted by yesthatjallen (Video at link)

The “poor huddled masses” coming across the southern border may not be so poor after all. Swiss journalist Urs Gehriger recently visited African migrants who breached the border and hung out on the streets of San Antonio, Texas, waiting to go elsewhere in the country, and he met hostility from people who didn’t want to share details about their experiences, conflicted each other, and had rolls of $100 bills. In a recording played on Fox News, Gehriger asks a migrant from Congo how she got to America. She refused to say.

As Gehriger continued to ask simple questions, he said they backtracked and “were not answering at all.” “They wouldn’t tell me anything about how they got here, and then they started to get aggressive and they were contradicting each other,” he told Laura Ingraham. “One said they ran through the forest, and another said no, there was no forest, and they were actually arguing among themselves,” Gehriger said. He said they started to get “aggressive” after questions about money and help.

Gehriger believes the illegals were coached on giving answers to authorities. “I had the impression that somebody told them not to speak about it,” and acting like “now we’re here, you have to help us, give us money.” “What I found from an aid worker there, they actually do have money. Quite a few of them, because he spotted them under a tree, right in front of the shelter, counting a roll of money with hundred dollar bills,” Gehriger told Ingraham. Hundreds of migrants Congo and Angola were transported to San Antonio the week before, and city officials say they received no warning from the feds that they were coming. KENS published a story showing dozens of people milling around downtown, saying they arrived at the southern U.S. border by way of Ecuador. ETC...

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Africans jump the border----seen holding wads of 100 dollar bills?

Its likely their Third World govt's are paying the freight b/c the govt honchos cash in bigtime from remittances of the US gravy train tax dollars.


15 posted on 07/25/2019 3:20:24 PM PDT by Liz ( Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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"Impoverished migrants" withdraw 4-5 figure sums......empty out Western Unions
americanthinker.com ^ | 6/25/2019 | Monica Showalter / FR Posted on 6/25/2019, 5:40:20 PM by rktman

Migrants have tons of tax-dollars (collected under several identities) from their extended visa-free stays here.

The Washington Examiner reports they are cleaning out the Western Unions in Texas based on their huge withdrawals:

SAN ANTONIO, Texas — People assisting the thousands of migrants who have arrived in San Antonio after being released from federal custody say Western Unions downtown are regularly running out of cash as a result of the high number of withdrawals being made by emigrants from Central American and African nations. “Western Union has run out for the past two-and-a-half months," said Khalid Chini, a local resident and volunteer at the migrant resource center downtown. "All the surrounding area, the Western Unions, they run out of money.” Withdrawals are running in the four and five-figure sums, according to the Examiner: (Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...

16 posted on 07/25/2019 3:22:14 PM PDT by Liz ( Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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“Can someone explain to me how a circuit court can make a ruling that applies to the entire nation instead of just its circuit?”

District Court Judges are confirmed by the Senate, which gives them a superior officer status. They are delegated that Federal Judicial authority.

It can be a prohibitive hardship for a plaintiff to have to travel very far for justice, so the District Courts are a means for the Federal Judiciary to be closer.

Nonetheless, the systematic abuse of that power in recent years (against President Trump), in a pretty bald and systematic partisan pattern, has called it into question.

It has been publicly raised by the President, and publicly commented on by Chief Justice Roberts. The longer it goes on, and the more egregious it gets, the more likely that some formal restriction will be imposed.


17 posted on 07/25/2019 3:25:59 PM PDT by BeauBo
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Thanks for the explanation.


18 posted on 07/25/2019 3:39:15 PM PDT by cpdiii ( canecutter, deckhand, roughneck, geologist, pilot, pharmacist THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR)
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To: magna carta

America is being rapidly colonized.


19 posted on 07/25/2019 3:42:09 PM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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Guatemala is another corrupt country.

Sick to death of its people breaking into our country.

20 posted on 07/25/2019 3:51:37 PM PDT by onyx
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