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To Prevent Cyber Snooping, the U.S. Navy Is Relying on WWII-Era Communications
Popular Mechanics via Yahoo ^ | August 16th, 2019 | Kyle Mizokami

Posted on 08/16/2019 5:09:25 PM PDT by Mariner

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In the olden days we would mimic the Soviet Navy.

We would have a present code book, rotating daily, with the decode of character groups.

Then we would establish a single HF frequency for the battle group and keep all silent until there was a flash message to be delivered.

Then, the ship with the flash traffic would send the small set of character codes VIA MORSE CODE to the battle group with a transmission lasting no more than 30 seconds. There would be no acknowledgement.

Emcon. Hack proof. Effective.

There are all sorts of contingencies worked out in Naval communications. Lots of them.

This article talks of one that made the news because it's so cute.

1 posted on 08/16/2019 5:09:26 PM PDT by Mariner
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There’s just nothing dumb about this, cause anything digital can be hacked or monitored.


2 posted on 08/16/2019 5:12:25 PM PDT by redfreedom
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American Indians?


3 posted on 08/16/2019 5:12:36 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Denounce DUAC - The Democrats Un-American Activists Commitee)
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>>In a future conflict with a tech-savvy opponent, the U.S. military could discover even its most advanced, secure communications penetrated by the enemy.

Especially with disloyal Islamists, homofascists, Marxists, and Chinese agents all embedded within the ranks.


4 posted on 08/16/2019 5:15:20 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Denounce DUAC - The Democrats Un-American Activists Commitee)
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A thirty aircraft recovery at night w/no radio comms, no electronic navaid emissions from the carrier were commonplace thirty years ago. I hope they still train that way.


5 posted on 08/16/2019 5:20:23 PM PDT by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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Digital messages sent via low powerlaser would work. Very narrow beam, undetectable more than a few hundred meters.


6 posted on 08/16/2019 5:20:23 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Where does it say in the Constitution anyone is entitled to the property another has labored for?)
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They could go back to Spartan message rods.


7 posted on 08/16/2019 5:20:26 PM PDT by yarddog
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“Especially with disloyal Islamists, homofascists, Marxists, and Chinese agents all embedded within the ranks.”

The Crypto is the CROWN JEWEL of every military, and every civilization.


8 posted on 08/16/2019 5:20:31 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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Especially with disloyal Islamists, homofascists, Marxists, and Chinese agents all embedded within the ranks.
= = =

Bean bag?

That is Mexican cultural appropriation.

Shut it down faster than those touch screens.


9 posted on 08/16/2019 5:20:47 PM PDT by Scrambler Bob (/S liberally (oops) applied to all posts.)
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“I hope they still train that way.”

If they’re not, I want my money back!


10 posted on 08/16/2019 5:22:00 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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Relying on WWII-Era Communications...

Yelling out the tenement window??


11 posted on 08/16/2019 5:27:48 PM PDT by dp0622 (Bad, bad company Till the day I die.)
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“Norton! NORTON! WILL YOU GET DOWN HERE ALREADY???”


12 posted on 08/16/2019 5:32:22 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Denounce DUAC - The Democrats Un-American Activists Commitee)
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About five years ago, some agency of the German government started using typewriters so the NSA (and others) couldn’t hack them.


13 posted on 08/16/2019 5:32:36 PM PDT by Kipp
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They think it’s cute only because they won’t have any way to hack in.


14 posted on 08/16/2019 5:33:59 PM PDT by bgill
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“Yelling out the tenement window??”

They train for every contingency. A battle group must have comms, even at the most basic level.

No matter what.

They still use semaphore too. And practice it.


15 posted on 08/16/2019 5:34:57 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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An asset is considered dead if there are no comms with it as scheduled.


16 posted on 08/16/2019 5:37:10 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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Just like with the reimagined TV show Battlestar Galactica, where the captain (Edward James Olmos) demanded that the Galactica remain "old style" in their communications and computers to prevent the Cylons from hacking into their systems.

Will our Navy go back to semaphores, with the vulnerability being that they have to remain in visual range of each other?

-PJ

17 posted on 08/16/2019 5:40:42 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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Cool history, thank you!


18 posted on 08/16/2019 5:43:13 PM PDT by Openurmind
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Yep, better yet. They make laser microphones with the same range. They detect vibrations on a solid object. They could literally talk to each other with two of these.


19 posted on 08/16/2019 5:46:39 PM PDT by Openurmind
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“Will our Navy go back to semaphores, with the vulnerability being that they have to remain in visual range of each other? “

See my #15.

Noting, that if the US Battle Group.fleet loses all form of electronic communications their only hope is to retreat and run for home.

But that will not happen, even though they train for it.

Remember, they shoot back and they are very, very, very good at that.

The US navy could defeat all the world’s navies, combined.

In the same month.

Sure, they’d need a little help from the US Air Force, but what are buddies for?


20 posted on 08/16/2019 5:49:09 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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