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Colorado Doctor Sounds Alarm on Marijuana Legalization High hopes dashed
freebeacon ^ | SEPTEMBER 6, 2019 | Charles Fain Lehman

Posted on 09/07/2019 4:37:12 AM PDT by MarvinStinson

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To: KEVLAR

The problem is that you can’t stop people from doing stupid things. The best you can do is mitigate the damage.
But if the states are going to legalize marijuana, the feds have to do it as well or it just becomes a nightmare. You end up with federal laws that can’t be enforced. I think Trump is leaning in that direction.


201 posted on 09/08/2019 6:34:24 AM PDT by AppyPappy (How many fingers am I holding up, Winston?)
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To: NobleFree

Glad you did not drive/go armed when you were under the influence ( yeah, right, the morally responsible doper).

Being under the influence of such substances automatically defines one as under the influence- so “out of control”. Rationalizing that you never killed anyone meaning you were under control is false.

While I am teachable, I am not so open minded that my brains have fallen out.

End of conversation. Do whatever, I pray the you will never harm anyone else while under the influence of legal or illegal substances, not for your sake but for theirs.


202 posted on 09/08/2019 8:06:53 AM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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To: jmacusa

As successful as the war on drugs has been! And a complete waste of time, money and energy...just like the war on drugs!

It is NOT the government’s job to keep me safe from ME!!


203 posted on 09/08/2019 10:20:21 AM PDT by ExTxMarine (Diversity is tolerance; diverse points of views will not be tolerated.)
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To: Manly Warrior
Being under the influence of such substances automatically defines one as under the influence-

Thanks for the tautology, Captain Obvious.

so “out of control”.

Is anyone under the influence to any degree by alcohol also "out of control" and putting others at risk? If so, shouldn't we be working to change, or at least unwaveringly condemning, society's decision that alcohol is legal? Or if you believe that's not true for alcohol but only other drugs, why should we agree with that counterintuitive position?

204 posted on 09/08/2019 11:31:30 AM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: AppyPappy

I agree completely.

Trying to stop people from doing stupid things is folly.

When the government tries it tends to get expensive, and affect those of us not inclined to engage in stupid things.


205 posted on 09/08/2019 12:29:22 PM PDT by KEVLAR (Liberty or Death)
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To: thoughtomator

“The big picture here is it is simply not your call to make”

“mind what is actually your own business”

“You’re not everybody’s mom nor anyone’s master”

WTF are you talking about? Are you stoned as you write?

I am posting about the effects of the drug, not the the policy or law governing it. Maybe you have confused me with someone else.


206 posted on 09/08/2019 3:07:43 PM PDT by BeauBo
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To: KEVLAR

“From even a casual search this is not typical usage.”

No, of course not. We are estimating what might be fatal ranges, not typical ranges.

The bottom line is that concentrates make it possible to get around the self-limiting factors with marijuana.

People just can’t smoke or eat enough marijuana to fatally overdose on THC. It is possible with concentrates.

Possible. Not likely, or typical.

“People report weeks to months of use from a 1 gram vape pen.”

I’ve got a whiskey bottle that I’ve been working on for the last several years. Someone else might go through it in an afternoon.

Looking through a few comments here (https://forum.grasscity.com/threads/how-long-should-a-dab-wax-last-1-gram.1307279/), they seem to agree that tolerance goes up quickly with regular use, and they typically start to go through a gram in 1-3 days.

I’d guess that most people would space out and stop vaping long before getting into a fatal range, but some fruitcake might rig up something to keep going on its own, or just eat a bunch at once.

There is also bound to be some fraction of people that are more sensitive than average.

I don’t think it will become a common cause of death, like OD is among heroin users (i.e. it will be a rare thing), but if people knew what to look for, and accurately diagnosed and reported every incident, we would likely be seeing actual fatalities from THC already.


207 posted on 09/08/2019 3:57:39 PM PDT by BeauBo
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To: ExTxMarine
Exactly. Every time the government wages ‘’war;; on some kind of socioeconomic issue there ends of being more of it. "War On Poverty'' results in more of it. "War on Drugs'', result: More drugs.
208 posted on 09/08/2019 5:15:53 PM PDT by jmacusa ("If wisdom is not the Lord, what is wisdom?''.)
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To: BeauBo

> I am posting about the effects of the drug, not the the policy or law governing it.

A statement like this convinces me that you are simply an evil, deceptive and manipulative person.

Do you think your motives are either mysterious or opaque?


209 posted on 09/08/2019 7:20:23 PM PDT by thoughtomator (... this has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.)
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To: NobleFree

It is NOT the Government’s job to keep me safe from ME!

If someone is driving under the influence, then there is already a law against that - arrest them when they drive. But it should not be the Government’s business if someone is sitting in their living room getting drunk, getting high or whatever else! You want the government to set influence and condemn personal actions - I want the government out of my personal business and to leave me the hell alone!

The problem is that people like you have given GOVERNMENT the mantle that YOU should be carrying! You want to influence someone or something, go do it - but DO NOT make that Government’s job - they have a job, this is NOT it!! Just like charity! It is great and good, and I encourage it extensively; however, it is NOT government’s job to FORCE everyone to be charitable (i.e., taxing people to provide welfare programs)!


210 posted on 09/09/2019 4:52:51 AM PDT by ExTxMarine (Diversity is tolerance; diverse points of views will not be tolerated.)
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To: ExTxMarine
You want the government to set influence and condemn personal actions

No, quite the opposite.

211 posted on 09/09/2019 5:25:46 AM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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