Posted on 09/23/2019 11:55:44 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd
Or you can look at the facts.
The police arrested Turner on Stanford's campus, and booked him into the Santa Clara County jail on suspicion of attempted rape and penetration with a foreign object.[6][7] He was released the same day after posting $150,000 bail.[8]
Turner was indicted on January 28, 2015, on five charges: two for rape, two for felony sexual assault, and one for attempted rape.[8] He was arraigned on February 2, 2015, pleading not guilty on all five charges.[9] On October 7, 2015, after reviewing the results of DNA tests, the two rape charges were dropped by prosecutors.[4][8] The trial began on March 14, 2016,[10] and concluded on March 30, 2016, with Turner being convicted of the three remaining charges of felony sexual assault.[11][12] The convictions carried a potential sentence of 14 years in prison. Prosecutors recommended six years in prison while probation officials recommended a "moderate" county jail sentence.[13] On June 2, 2016, Santa Clara County Superior Court Judge Aaron Persky sentenced Turner to six months' confinement in the Santa Clara County jail (of which he served half) to be followed by three years of probation. Additionally, Turner was informed of his life-long obligation to be lawfully registered as a sex offender[14] and furthermore, ordered to complete a state approved rehabilitation program for sex offenders.[12]
It's up to you.
If she had gotten pregnant she wouldn’t have had anybody to go after for child support had you killed him....though I get the sentiment. A rape case could have been made had he been charged, even back “then”.
You must have really loved that girl, no “just a friend” does that sort of thing in terms of nearly killing someone. IMHO!
Well, if he was convicted of 3 felonies he should probably get more than 3 months in county jail. Probably it means that the judge didn’t believe she was raped at all.
In any case, there is no justification for what Turner did.
The gentlemanly thing to do to a woman who is nearly passed out is to help her get home. What he did to her is unconscionable, and rightfully a criminal act.
“...’Rape Is Not a Punishment for Getting Drunk’”
She must be living under Sharia law.
It’s not an ‘either/or’
A gal getting drunk at a frat party is inviting disaster.
*AND*
A male who has sex with a woman unable to consent deserves castration and crucifixion, be it via force, unconsciousness, or their being a young child
I completely agree.
It may appear that I’m splitting hairs. Making a distinction between rape and sexual assault.
But let me be clear on this: Turner was fairly convicted, yet given a slap on the wrist. That idiot judge deserved his recall.
Do I believe the sex started out as consensual? Nope. Even if it did - it went to NON consensual the second she passed out.
There is such a thing as “digital rape”. I think the above post explains that.
Drunk girls have always been in danger. So they shouldn’t get drunk.
There MAY be, but only because it’s their 1,476th offense. Typically brainwashed comment to bring blacks into the equation to “prove” that white men get shorter sentences for crime. This was probably this perverts 1st offense and while he deserves more time, “priors” make a difference in sentencing.
The confusion may be that different states have different definitions for rape or assault. They tend to be used interchangeably.
After this case, California passed new laws making digital penetration a RAPE crime. Not just Sexual Assault.
California legislation[edit]
The public outrage at the sentence in the Turner case prompted the California State Legislature to pass two bills that would change California state law on sexual assault. Assembly Bill 701 would broaden California’s definition of rape so that it would cover digital and penile penetration. Assembly Bill 2888 (written by District Attorney Jeff Rosen) would provide for a mandatory minimum three-year prison sentence for sexual assault of an unconscious or intoxicated person. (Current[when?] California law provides a mandatory minimum prison sentence when a defendant uses force, but has no mandatory minimum sentence when the victim is unconscious or incapacitated and unable to resist.)[156][157][158][159][21]
The final versions of A.B. 2888 and A.B. 701 were both unanimously approved by the California legislature.[159][21][160] Both bills subsequently went to Governor Jerry Brown’s desk.[156][157] The bills were signed into law on September 30, 2016.[22]
After these laws were enacted, state law from before 2016 continued to provide that where imprisonment in the state prison is imposed for rape (when the victim is not a minor) or for the crime of sexual penetration when the victim is “prevented from resisting by any intoxicating or anesthetic substance,” the imprisonment is for a period of “three, six, or eight years.”[161][162]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People_v._Turner
Feminism... the concept that a female cannot possibly exercise sound judgement, or be held responsible for their actions when intoxicated... But a male, just as drunk as her, doing the act jointly with her, is fully morally and criminally responsible for every aspect of it.
“There’s no excuse for a woman not being safe alone in a group of men after getting totally blitzed.”
The hell with that. This little dove drinks till she is blind drunk and unconscious in the yard. Then wraps herself in the cloak of sacred womanhood and expects to be treated with high gilded age manners.
You act like a lady, you’ll be treated like one. Act like you are on skid row, and that’s how you’ll be treated.
“A real man, having seen her passed out drunk, might have rendered assistance and summoned professional emergency medical help.”
...ding, ding, ding...we have a winner! You are a World Champion!
Having sex with an unconscious person, regardless of how s/he became unconscious, is rape because s/he never had a chance to say “No”. Brock Turner raped this young woman same as if he’d knocked her unconscious with his fists. He was found guilty of rape by a jury of his peers, only the idiot judge decided Stanford athletics trumped locking up a sexual predator.
It’s probably against FR regulations to say what I would like to do to that judge. Suffice to say it involves a rope and a sturdy tree.
These laws vary by state. In New York, where I am, what he did is rape.
Why is it that a female can display horribly bad judgment by getting drunk around strange men, but if a strange man is also drunk and takes advantage of the situation, he is the only one blamed? Why is there "no excuse" for the man but not the woman? Surely there should be "no excuse" for a woman getting stinko but demanding that everyone else respect her?
Expecting a man not to penetrate an unconscious woman is not “high gilded age manners”. It is common decency and respect for the law.
Men who act like rabid dogs should be “fixed” and put down as such. Turner is one of those men.
He was unconscious, too?
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