Posted on 09/25/2019 11:39:58 AM PDT by Drango
spell checkers can go straight to he’ll
WTF ever.
Let people do whatever they want.
thousands die from tobacco each year....
I’ve been vaping since 2009. One should never vape anything that isn’t water-based. Oils wreck the atomizer.
Flavored Creamers is a perfect example. How many kids are hooked on Starbucks? The kids ain’t buying black coffee. Starbucks should only sell non flavored coffee drinks. It will cut down on youth caffeine addiction. Frankly they should ban all flavor.
Btw I quit smoking with a mango juul. Switched to mint when they started banning it in the stores.
Tar is kind of like oil.
Uhh, I smoked menthol when I was still doing actual tobacco (quit in 2005). I see that mint is on the list of flavors deemed in 2019 as too enjoyable for adult use...
Please keep in your own home assumptions about what other adults might want and I promise to not advocate for mandatory vaping by everyone over the age of 12. See how easy that is?
[[I’m wondering if the liquid in nicotine-only e-cigarettes also is an oil that accumulates in the lungs.]]
Eciggs have been around since 2006 i believe it was- no problems till just this year apparently- seems more likely that a new product line of juice or vaping method is to blame-
I will say this though- people that vape today inhale a crapload of watervapor- way way more than cigarette smokers inhale- and they seem to do it steady- the cloud they let loose with is unreal- perhaps it’s how deeply they inhale too that might be adding to the illnesses- who knows- I suspect it is home brewed stuff and THC products causing some of this- This isn’t a post against THC- but just pointing out the people that are dying seem to have been THC vapers- so it looksl iek soemthign in the products that is causing the illnesses
You ay want to check in some of the states with legal dope. They sell THC cartridges there legally and THC has about the same viscosity as the tobacco tar containing nicotine. THC is NOT water soluble.
A few thoughts here:
1. Juul stopping selling flavored vaping cartridges isn't going to lessen the problem of people getting sick and dying. If anything, it may make it worse as bootleggers/third-parties start selling them.
2. We'll see an increase in bootleg/aftermarket/third-party cartridges where who knows what will actually end up in them and that'll make more people sick.
3. Yes, the kids are getting their hands on Juul devices because they like the flavors. They also like that they've found ways to refill their cartridges and put all kinds of other crap in them to get high. Denying that the kids are getting hooked on Juul is denying reality. The peer pressure to vape at the Jr. High/High School levels is really high. My own kids faced it when they were in school and told me about it.
4. Finally, Juul is the scapegoat here. I've read enough testimonies here on FR how Juul helped people quit smoking altogether or at least greatly reduce their nicotine intake. Does it help everyone quit? No, are there a significant amount of people who've used it to quit? The testimonies posted here on FR indicate so.
Sadly, I live in Colorado. I know all about that.
I’m just stating that since 2009, everyone knew about oils wrecking vaping atomizers.
These days, though, no one cares.
Except those of us who have successfully stopped smoking with ecigs.
Uhhhh, illegally made THC cartridges appear to be as popular in States where weed is illegal as the weed itself is...
I know, who would have think that folks already selling an illegal product would figure out other ways to sell that illegal product? Gobsmacked here, I tell you, Gobsmacked...
First, the market drove the popularity of e-cigs. They were basically regular, and menthol. The trouble started when they started offering everything from Tropical Oasis to mango-pineapple to Plum-flavored. (I still have a few packs of MarkTEN cartridges around here. They went out of business this year due to regulation and market competition.) Then the feddle and state gummints stepped in and decided to regulate them until there were only three or four (Juul, nJoy, Blu, Vuse) that you could buy OTC at any convenience store. The weird-shaped ones, like some sort of alien artifact. You can’t find the old-school ones. I’m not talking about those hookahs that can be juiced up with THC or one of a thousand other flavors and strengths that you go to a smoke shop to get; I mean, the battery/disposble cartridge kind, that looked like a cigarette. You can’t find them anymore except as a disposable. I’ve got a nice e-pipe - as in, Grandad’s old-fashioned briar pipe, wood-grain and all - that I get custom juice for. Virginia gold tobacco, bourbon, apple, cherry, applejack, champagne, those sorts of flavor combos. I have recipes that taste like Borkum Riff. Mark my words - they’ll regulate vaping in general right off the market, and my e-pipe juice will bcome illegal to sell via the Internet. Because that’s what politicians do. If these little f*ckers want to make themselves sick, they can go back to eating Tide pods. I kicked a 30 year habit and started with e-cigs seven years ago with my doctor’s blessing. If people are puking their organs up because they’re huffing 500 hits a day with a 20% nicotine level, well, that’s just nature’s way of thinning the herd.
Ah, forgive me sir...
The cartridge systems seem to just work around that just by being being disposable. My son used the tank and fluid vape system for a while and he just switched over to Juul. He carefully evaluated the juice he was putting in the tank.
Me, I have preferred the NJOY Loop system fro the last year or so. I sure hope the Cool Menthol Loop pods aren’t on the verbotten list...
Maybe they had a cool cartoon mascot like Joe Camel. Vapey the Vaping Viper?
“Starbucks should only sell non flavored coffee drinks.”
50 million pumpkin spice latte loving white girls just put you on their list.
No worries.
I’ve been building my own coils on the Hellvape Rebirth RTA. So much cheaper than buying atomizers. About $16 for an over six month supply of Kanthol wire and Japanese organic cotton.
Next, the bigoted nannystate tyrants will ban cotton and Kanthol.
$60/50 a cart that costs 12 bucks to make. Good profit. 1000 carts in a bad batch made in NYS illegally gave us this crisis.
My 21 year old son loves flavor for his vape.
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