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Republicans see impeachment backfiring. Democrats fear they may be right
Reuters ^

Posted on 09/26/2019 9:10:37 PM PDT by Bigtigermike

Reuters) - Having his morning coffee and cigarette outside a Starbucks in one of the most politically contested counties in the United States, Richard Sibilla recoils at the memory of President Donald Trump's election.

But impeach him now? Sibilla can see little upside.

"After this he has a much better chance of winning another election, as scary as that sounds," said Sibilla, 39, a resident of Pinellas County, Florida, who voted for Hillary Clinton in 2016. "It's not even worth following because it's all going to help him."

Among the public, interviews with more than 60 voters across four of the most important counties in the 2020 election showed Republicans largely confident the impeachment process will backfire and Trump will win re-election. Democrats, on the other hand, are worried they may be right.

Marc Devlin, a 48-year-old consultant from Northampton County, Pennsylvania, said he expects the inquiry to "incense" supporters of the president. "This is my fear, that it will actually add some flame to his fire with his base," he said. "I just fear 'party over country.'"

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"They have this idea that everyone is siding with them, that Trump is an impeachable president, when really it's only a minority," Rose Mulet, 19, said of the Democratic leadership in Congress. "It's not a reflection of the general public."
1 posted on 09/26/2019 9:10:37 PM PDT by Bigtigermike
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To: Bigtigermike

You can’t impeach the President of the United States because he makes you sad and cry all of the time. Check the Constitution. It’s not in there.


2 posted on 09/26/2019 9:13:01 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (You can vote your way into socialism but you have to shoot your way out of it.)
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To: Bigtigermike

Yeah, but it’s a minority with money.
And that’s what matters to the Dems, all that matters.


3 posted on 09/26/2019 9:13:15 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: Bigtigermike

Ah the ministry of “truthiness” speaks.


4 posted on 09/26/2019 9:13:23 PM PDT by Bayard
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To: Bigtigermike

With all the people who were interviewed they couldn’t find one Hillary to Trump switcher. How convenient.


5 posted on 09/26/2019 9:24:36 PM PDT by Betty Jane
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To: Bigtigermike

Why on earth any one with a functioning brain would vote for a Democrat is totally baffling to me.

Thanks for allowing me to rant a bit.


6 posted on 09/26/2019 9:31:59 PM PDT by Gumdrop (qui)
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To: Bigtigermike

I get angry just knowing asshats like Adam Schiff exist - no less that his type would try to drag a duly elected President through this kind of crap.


7 posted on 09/26/2019 9:39:03 PM PDT by GOPJ (Why? ..They know they cannot win honestly at the ballot box... Freeper EagleUSA)
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To: Bigtigermike

Democrat congresscritters have called for the impeachment of every Republican President since Eisenhower. Hell, they may have called for the impeachment of Eisenhower too, but that was before my time.

Just like Socialism, the far left wing liberals are convinced that THIS TIME it will work!


8 posted on 09/26/2019 9:39:37 PM PDT by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation has ended!)
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To: Bigtigermike

IMPEACHMENT— Hyram F. Suddfluffel, PhD

LET THEM GO AHEAD AND IMPEACH TRUMP.... HERE’S WHAT HAPPENS THEN......
By: Hyram F. Suddfluffel, PhD, (Political Science)

I have a degree in Political Science, and I am a card-carrying Libertarian. I’ve been studying politics and political history for the past 30 years. My specialty is U.S. Presidents. That said, I hope that the House of
Representatives impeaches Trump. Let me tell you what will happen next!

1. The House can pass articles of impeachment over the objections of the
Republicans, and refer to the Senate for trial.

2. The Senate will conduct a trial. There will be a vote, and the Republicans will vote unanimously, along with a small number of Democrats, to not convict the President. Legally, it will all be over at that point.

3. However, during the trial, and this is what no one is thinking about right now, the President’s attorneys will have the right to subpoena and question ANYONE THEY WANT.. That is different than the special counsel
investigation, which was very one-sided. So, during the impeachment trial, we will be hearing testimony from James Comey, Peter Strzok, Lisa Page, Bruce Ohr, Glenn Simpson, Donna Brazile, Eric Holder, Loretta Lynch,
Christopher Steele, Hillary Clinton, John Brennan, James Clapper, and a whole host of other participants in this whole sordid affair and the ensuing cover up activities.

A lot of dirt will be dug up; a lot of truth will be unveiled. Finger pointing will occur. Deals will start being made, and suddenly, a lot of democrats will start being charged and going to prison.

All this, because, remember, the President’s team will now, for the first time, have the RIGHT to question all of these people under oath – and they will turn on each other. That is already starting.

4. Lastly, one more thing will happen, the Senate will not convict the President. Nothing will happen to Trump. Most Americans are clueless about political processes, the law, and the Constitution. Most Americans believe
that being impeached results in removal from office. They don’t understand that phase 2 is a trial in and by the Senate, where he has zero chance of conviction. Remember, the Senate is controlled by Republicans; they will
determine what testimony is allowed — and **everything** will be allowed, including: DNC collusion with the Clinton campaign to fix the election in favor of Hillary, the creation of the Trump dossier, the cover up and
destruction of emails that very likely included incriminating information.
They will incriminate each other for lying to the FISA court, for spying and wiretapping the Trump campaign, and for colluding with foreign political actors, especially George Soros. After the Senate declines to convict the
President, we will have an election, and Trump will win. It will be a backlash against democrat petulance, temper tantrums, hypocrisy and dishonesty. Even minorities will vote for Trump, because, for the first time, they will see that democrats have spent 2+ years focused on maintaining their own power, and not doing anything at all about black murders in Chicago, homelessness, opioids, and other important issues that are actually killing people. And, we will spend the following four years listening to politicians and pundits claim that the whole impeachment was rigged.
So let’s move on to impeachment.
Hyram F. Suddfluffel, PhD


9 posted on 09/26/2019 9:51:24 PM PDT by ptsal
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To: ptsal

There won’t be a trial. The Senate will discharge the articles without trial and there is no appeal.


10 posted on 09/26/2019 9:56:59 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: Bigtigermike

WOW, Reuters, be careful, you might let your bias show.

These people have no shame.

And still we are winning!!!!!


11 posted on 09/26/2019 10:07:09 PM PDT by Maris Crane
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To: ptsal

I’m not impressed by the degree. I think that is a lot of wishful thinking.


12 posted on 09/26/2019 10:09:15 PM PDT by mlo
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To: Bigtigermike

Someone needs to explain to the Socialists on the left side of the aisle that beating Queen Hillary in an election is not “high crimes and misdemeanors” or any other impeachable offense.

But, they are welcome to try their hardest. I figure that the more time and energy they waste on trying to come up with articles of impeachment, the less time and energy they have to compound the legacy of Obama-lama-ding-dong the (hopefully) last.


13 posted on 09/26/2019 10:14:08 PM PDT by ssaftler (The opinions expressed here have not been peer reviewed, fact checked or focus group tested.)
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To: GOPJ

And little Adam Schitt lies about it in the process.


14 posted on 09/26/2019 10:24:48 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (Ban liberals, NOT guns.)
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To: mlo
I think that is a lot of wishful thinking.

Yes. The 'rats will close ranks, as always. And they will over-reach, as they have done since the Wellstone Funeral Rally.

The author also underestimates the rage that will be felt among Trump supporters. It is impossible to listen to the 'rats and not take it personally.

I predict 10 million Trump supporters will descend upon D.C.

(Checking Southwest flights to D.C. area.)

15 posted on 09/26/2019 10:29:34 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (This Space For Rant)
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16 posted on 09/26/2019 10:30:46 PM PDT by jonrick46 (Cultural Marxism is the cult of the Left waiting for the Mothership.)
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To: Gumdrop

I don’t even call any of them “liberals” anymore. That’s really too nice a term.


17 posted on 09/26/2019 10:34:59 PM PDT by babyfreep (#WalkAway)
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To: ssaftler

“..the less time and energy they have to compound the legacy of Obama-lama-ding-dong...”

That’s one way to look at it. [nodding]


18 posted on 09/26/2019 10:37:13 PM PDT by babyfreep (#WalkAway)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Haha that remark made my day!


19 posted on 09/26/2019 10:59:29 PM PDT by knighthawk (We will always remember We will always be proud We will always be prepared so we may always be free)
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Asking University students why Trump should be impeached:
Answer: "because he is so popular ...and... that isn't good for America"
https://youtu.be/IiCQ_QoGrZM?t=81
20 posted on 09/26/2019 11:04:06 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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