Posted on 10/03/2019 7:12:54 AM PDT by yesthatjallen
Police were warned that the gunman who killed seven people and wounded 25 in Texas last month was planning an attack eight years ago, according to newly revealed police reports.
Seth Ator’s mother reported to cops in February 2011 that her son was refusing to take his mental health medication and had threatened to kill himself in a shootout with police, CNN reported.
The worried mom shared a recording with cops, in which Ator declared “911 will bow down before me.”
When officers in Amarillo, Texas, showed up to her home in 2011, they found what they interpreted as preparations for an attack — a machete hidden in Ator’s bed and an underground shelter he’d dug in the backyard.
“There seemed to be some indication of some planned stand-off with police,” one of the officers wrote in a report.
Another officer wrote he believed that Ator, then 28, was violent and would “attempt to harm the police and public” one day.
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Here’s the thing....there’s 250,000 of these ‘Seth’s’ out there, and judges are unwilling to put them into mental facilities, so they wait patiently for the idiots to commit a crime and get prison as the back-up plan.
The opposite of this would be far more dangerous. It’s just part of the price of freedom.
Here’s the thing... with 250,000 of these ‘Seth’s’ out there, liberal judges are more than willing to put Conservatives into mental facilities, without waiting for any of us to commit a crime and get prison... as evidenced by their 3 year attack on an innocent man in the White House, and everyone associated with him.
Don't be so eager to invite PreCrime into our lives. It's an even more horrifying problem than Tom Cruise displayed in his movie.
Get to know some folks in the Psych field someday. The VAST majority are left-wing, and have psych issues of their own, which is what draws them to the field. Don't take my word for it. Talk to psych "professionals". Seriously.
(Just don't make the massive mistake of dating a few. Trust me on THAT part.)
well said and i will add that ALL phsych field people have an issue they are dealing with.
Those mental facilities no longer exist.
I suppose that in view of the fact that every mass shooting over the past 20 years has the common factor of anti-depressant drugs which carry a warning of causing this type of behavior would be anything to take a look at?
Plus add in the 20 or so vets that are taking their life every day.
Then I must remain free to put a bullet in every one of there brain buckets.
Its just part of the price of my freedom.
I understand the concern about 'pre-crime' reporting but in this case, someone close to the suspect, his own mother, tried to reach out for help concerning his deteriorating mental health and threats to himself and the police.
I don't want my neighbor to have the power to report me to the police because I own a gun and he doesn't like how I tend to my lawn or if I work on my car in the driveway on weekends so I'm concerned about the abuse of red flag laws.
The mother had first-hand knowledge and, I don't want to say she was ignored, but maybe some already in-place, well-funded government agency could have given her help and hope.
If liberals are going to force us to fund these agencies they should at least prove themselves useful and provide help when needed.
All too true. It was sort of funny to me years ago (I had to take WAY too many psych courses in college), but not so much anymore.
I did work as a psych nurse years ago and got married and went on to work in med-surge nursing. A friend of mine, from the psych days a couple of years later got together with me for lunch for a chat and to answer a possible query I had about returning to psych.
He said, “you are different....you have no vices, you are grounded and half of the staff you worked with are in some type of substance abuse support group or on meds for depression and anxiety. I’ve been clean and sober for a while now myself so you know my history. Half the patients coming in know co-workers who are in their same outpatient support groups as they are. They(both the staff and patients) all play this game of “pretend not to recognize each other” while the patients so affected are admitted. So you have to understand that some of the staff and many of the patients who know them from the outside don’t know how to deal with an actual psych nurse who is in his right mind.”
I think I was one of few conservatives that worked there. I decided then to just practice within the medical realm of nursing and give psych a wide birth.
There used to be several mental health hospitals in each county, with up to a thousand patients, and the folks who need supervision would be in there.
Now they walk among us. In this case the mom was asking for help and there was none. Same with the Sandy Hook shooter, the mom could not get help.
I don’t think that confined treatment for mental illness is the same as “pre-crime”.
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