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Barr bemoans 'moral upheaval' that has brought 'suffering and misery'
The Hill ^ | 10/13/19 | Justine Coleman

Posted on 10/13/2019 1:36:24 PM PDT by yesthatjallen

Attorney General William Barr in a speech Friday bemoaned the "moral upheaval" of religious values in the United States, saying it has brought "suffering and misery."

Barr made the comments during an address at the University of Notre Dame Law School. He said the deterioration of religion in the country is an "organized destruction" by secularists in an "unremitting assault on religion and traditional values," according to CNN.

"Among the militant secularists are many so-called progressives. But where is the progress?" Barr asked.

This "upheaval" has led to growing illegitimacy rates, drug use and "angry, alienated young males," CNN reported Barr said.

"The campaign to destroy the traditional moral order has coincided and I believe has brought with it immense suffering and misery," Barr said, according to CNN. "And yet the forces of secularism, ignoring these tragic results, press on with even greater militancy."

Barr said the "spiritual void" left from the demolition of religion is not filled by any "secular creed."

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1 posted on 10/13/2019 1:36:24 PM PDT by yesthatjallen
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To: yesthatjallen

Is the “bemoan” word choice an attempt to belittle someone morally superior?


2 posted on 10/13/2019 1:40:12 PM PDT by KDF48 (Redeemed by Christ.)
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To: yesthatjallen

10000% needs to be said. If God is real pissing him off is not good policy in Government.


3 posted on 10/13/2019 1:40:31 PM PDT by Bayard
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To: Bayard
"10000% needs to be said. If God is real pissing him off is not good policy in Government."

I agree entirely with the "10,000%" comment, but I don't think God gets 'pissed'. I think God wants people to choose good and to choose to be with God. When people choose against that, they become isolated in existence, alone, apart from God. This doesn't lead to happiness.

4 posted on 10/13/2019 1:46:18 PM PDT by neverevergiveup
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To: yesthatjallen

Can’t have a new world order until the existing one has been eradicated.


5 posted on 10/13/2019 1:51:39 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: neverevergiveup

He was pretty torqued off in Lot’s time...


6 posted on 10/13/2019 1:52:38 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: yesthatjallen

He could do something right now. Take the wind out of the sails of the left and start arresting the coup plotters.


7 posted on 10/13/2019 2:08:08 PM PDT by JohnnyP (Thinking is hard work (I stole that from Rush).)
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To: neverevergiveup

Good post. From Genesis, God has always given Man a choice. It is a key of Judeo-Christian doctrine.


8 posted on 10/13/2019 2:11:35 PM PDT by griswold3 (Democratic Socialism is Slavery by Mob Rule!)
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To: neverevergiveup

Ever read about Noah and the Great Flood? Genesis says that mankind became so evil that God was sorry He had created humans. So God drowned everyone except Noah and his family. Accounts of evil behavior being punished are recorded in many places in the Scriptures.


9 posted on 10/13/2019 2:11:35 PM PDT by txrefugee
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To: yesthatjallen

Isnt misery and suffering the best case scenario for humans to evolve into the next species. This is the precipice of and evolutionary change.
Or just media driving a narrative.
Or something else.


10 posted on 10/13/2019 2:14:16 PM PDT by momincombatboots (Ephesians 6... who you are really at war with)
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To: yesthatjallen
Barr and others who have the courage to speak out today are echoing the views of great leaders from America's past, including Ohio State Senator and A.M.E. Bishop Benjamin W. Arnett, outstanding Black scholar, Legislator, and Minister, who lived through the period of the Civil War and delivered a most outstanding Centennial Sermon, at St. Paul Church in Norwalk, Ohio, by invitation, in honor of the 100th Anniversary of the Declaration of Independence, in which he traced the history of nations and that of America, from it's inception and up to the Year of the Centennial of its Declaration.
 photo Benjamin W. Arnett2 image.jpg

In that Sermon, Dr. Arnett issued a grave warning of what might happen to America if a group, including academics who then self-described as "Liberals," had its way. Excerpts follow:

"The Danger to our Country.

"Now that our national glory and grandeur is principally derived from the position the fathers took on the great questions of right and wrong, and the career of this nation has been unparalleled in the history of the past, now there are those who are demanding the tearing down the strength of our national fabric. They may not intend to tear it down, but just as sure as they have their way, just that sure will they undermine our superstructure and cause the greatest calamity of the age. What are the demands of this party of men? Just look at it and examine it for yourselves, and see if you are willing that they shall have their way; or will you still assist in keeping the ship of state in the hands of the same crew and run her by the old gospel chart! But ye men who think there is no danger listen to the demands of the Liberals as they choose to call themselves:

"'Organize! Liberals of America! The hour for action has arrived. The cause of freedom calls upon us to combine our strength, our zeal, our efforts. These are The Demands of Liberalism:

"'1. We demand that churches and other ecclesiastical property shall no longer be exempt from just taxation.

"'2. We demand that the employment of chaplains in Congress, in State Legislatures, in the navy and militia, and in prisons, asylums, and all other institutions supported by public money, shall be discontinued.

"'3. We demand that all public appropriations for sectarian educational and charitable institutions shall cease.

"'4. We demand that all religious services now sustained by the government shall be abolished; and especially that the use of the Bible in the public schools, whether ostensibly as a text-book or avowedly as a book of religious worship, shall be prohibited.

"'5. We demand that the appointment, by the President of the United States or by the Governors of the various States, of all religious festivals and fasts shall wholly cease.

"'6. We demand that the judicial oath in the courts and in all other departments of the government shall be abolished, and that simple affirmation under the pains and penalties of perjury shall be established in its stead.

"'7. We demand that all laws directly or indirectly enforcing the observance of Sunday as the Sabbath shall be repealed.

"'8. We demand that all laws looking to the enforcement of “Christian” morality shall be abrogated, and that all laws shall be conformed to the requirements of natural morality, equal rights, and impartial liberty.

"'9. We demand that not only in the Constitution of the United States and of the several States, but also in the practical administration of the same, no privilege or advantage shall be conceded to Christianity or any other special religion; that our entire political system shall be founded and administered on a purely secular basis; and that whatever changes shall prove necessary to this end shall be consistently, unflinchingly, and promptly made.'

"'Let us boldly and with high purpose meet the duty of the hour.'

In another section of the lengthy discourse, Bishop Arnett addressed the topic of "The Greatness of America," as follows:
"Let us see what it is that makes us so great; wherein lies our strength. What has made us one of the greatest powers of the earth, politically and intellectually? Have we come to the conclusion that it is Righteousness that exalteth a nation? We have met to-day at the request of the President of the United States, Ulysses S. Grant, and also the Governor of our beloved State, Rutherford B. Hayes. For what? Why call us from our homes? Why come to the house of God? Why not go to the hall of mirth and to the places of amusement to-day? No that is not what they want us to do. We are commanded to go to our 'several places of worship, and there offer up thanks to Kind Providence which has brought our nation through the scenes of another year, and blessed the land with peace, plenty and prosperity.' Then as Americans we have reason to rejoice and congratulate ourselves on the greatness of our beloved country; at this the close of the first hundred years of experimental government of the people, by the people, and for the people. To be a citizen of this vast country is something, and to share in its privileges and duties is more than something." - Dr. Benjamin W. Arnett, 1876 "Centennial Thanksgiving Sermon" -

CENTENNIAL Thanksgiving Sermon, DELIVERED BY REV. B. W. ARNETT, B. D., AT ST. PAUL A. M. E. CHURCH, URBANA, OHIO 1876 - available in the "Library of Congress - Historical Collections" - "African-American Pamphlets from the Daniel A. P. Murray Collection," 1820-1920; American Memory, Washington, DC.

This historical treasure is one which should be prominent in our national discussions, especially now, when our philosophical foundations are being challenged, and when the views of a learned man like Dr. Arnett might shed light on centuries-old ideas about America's history. His theme: Righteousness Exalteth a Nation, but Sin is a Reproach to any People."

"Withdraw from Christendom the Bible, the Church with its sacraments and ministry, and Christian morality and hopes, and aspirations for time and eternity; repeal all the laws that are founded in the Christian Scriptures; remove the Christian humanities in the form of hospitals and asylums, and reformatories and institutions of mercy utterly unknown to unchristian countries; destroy the literature, the culture, the institutions of learning, the art, the refinement, the place of woman in her home and in society, which owe their origin and power to Christianity; blot out all faith in Divine Providence, love, and righteousness; turn back every believer in Christ to his former state; remove all thought or hope of the forgiveness of sins by a just but gracious God; erase the name of Christ from every register it sanctifies—in a word annihilate all the legitimate and logical effects of Christianity in Christendom—just accomplish in fact what multitudes of gifted and learned minds are wishing and trying to accomplish by their science, philosophy, and criticism, and what multitudes of the common people desire and seek, and not only would all progress toward and unto perfection cease, but not one of the shining lights of infidelity would shine much longer. Yes, the bitterest enemies of this holy and blessed religion, owe their ability to be enemies to its sacred revelations - to the inspiration and sublimity of that faith which reflects its glories on their hostile natures. They live in the strength of that which they would destroy. They are raised to their seats of opportunity and power by the grace of Him they would crucify afresh; and is it to be thought that they are stronger than that which gives them strength? Can it be supposed that a religion which civilizes and subdues, and elevates and blesses will succumb to the enmities it may arouse and quicken in its onward march? Are we to tremble for the ark of God when God is its upholder, and protector, and preserver?” - Dr. Benjaming W. Arnett, St. Paul A.M.E. Church, Urbana, Ohio, Centennial Thanksgiving Sermon, November 1876
Dr. Arnett, an A.M.E. Minister and Ohio State Legislator, was invited to publish this remarkable sermon commemorating the Centennial of the Declaration of Independence by the following method:

To:

Rev. B. W. ARNETT, B. D.

Dear Pastor:

Will you please prepare your “Centennial Thanksgiving Sermon” for publication: together with whatever matter pertaining to the colored people of this city, you deem worth preserving.

We make this request of you, believing that the publication of such matter, will be of benefit to the present and succeeding generations.

Yours Respectfully,

J GAITER
J. DEMPCY
C. L, GANT
Trustees W. A. STILGASS, W. O. BOWLES

Urbana, O.

December 7th, 1876

J GAITER, J. DEMPCY, C. L, GANT

Trustees W. A. STILGASS, W. O. BOWLES


11 posted on 10/13/2019 2:16:20 PM PDT by loveliberty2 (`)
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To: KDF48

“Is the “bemoan” word choice an attempt to belittle someone morally superior?”

Hard to say. They didn’t put a /S.


12 posted on 10/13/2019 2:23:44 PM PDT by rockinqsranch ("Democratic" party sold out to the ICP. It is now the Communist Party USA.)
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To: yesthatjallen

Amen.


13 posted on 10/13/2019 2:26:11 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: yesthatjallen

So, while we’re waiting around for Barr to start taking some real action he’s out giving speeches?

Jeeze Louise please!


14 posted on 10/13/2019 2:29:49 PM PDT by Bullish (My tagline ran off with another man.)
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To: Bayard

The Bible is very clear that God puts nations under judgment. The U.S. is clearly at that point and we see the evidence all around us. We haven’t yet had armed foreign invasion (probably Mexico or China) but that will happen. China will probably force us economically to give up some of our sovereign rights.


15 posted on 10/13/2019 2:33:29 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: Bullish

So, while we’re waiting around for Barr to start taking some real action he’s out giving speeches?

If he owned a mortuary, no one would die.


16 posted on 10/13/2019 2:41:03 PM PDT by Mouton (The media is the enemy of the people.)
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To: yesthatjallen

So far he’s no more than the second coming of Jeff Sessions.


17 posted on 10/13/2019 3:07:51 PM PDT by bramps (It's the Islam, stupid!)
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To: Bullish

Barr is preparing the public for what is to come. FISA.


18 posted on 10/13/2019 3:12:06 PM PDT by WWG1WWA ("Brothers, what we do in life echoes in eternity." - Marcus Aurelius)
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To: KDF48
Beto - at his ‘townhall’ (CNN chooses the audience and questions ahead of time - so they're all supportive of the left) said he would drop tax exemptions for ALL Churches that didn't accept all LGBTQ stances.
19 posted on 10/13/2019 3:13:09 PM PDT by GOPJ (Elizabeth Warren Is Jussie Smollett - - Kevin D. Williamson)
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To: yesthatjallen

Barr is one of history’s biggest hypocrites if Obama, Hillary, and the entire cabal isn’t behind bars for a very very long time. God proclaimed that we are to follow the government’s laws. And Barr is in charge of enforcing those laws. If he does nothing about some of history’s most blatant violations of U.S. law then he will go down as literally one of the biggest disappointments in United States history. Not a tag I would want Mr. Barr. ( and I also wouldn’t want to be the one who put him in charge Mr. President. Especially after your first colossal failure in this very important position)


20 posted on 10/13/2019 3:17:10 PM PDT by bramps (It's the Islam, stupid!)
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