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Syria cease-fire in question after fighting, shelling reported
FoxNews - Breaking News Alert ^ | 18 October 2019 | Edmund Demarche

Posted on 10/18/2019 1:33:20 AM PDT by FRinCanada2

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My initial thoughts are that the forces that are “fighting” after the agreed upon 120hr “cease-fire” or “pause” in fighting may not have got “email” from their commander or more likely are acting independent of their government?

Or the “cease-fire” / “pause” was not agreed to by the forces on the ground. ISIS or ISIS sympathizers or just independent fighters stepping in to fill the leadership void created?

1 posted on 10/18/2019 1:33:20 AM PDT by FRinCanada2
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To: FRinCanada2

If they don’t stop, then how about we drop a nice big MOAB on their sorry asses!


2 posted on 10/18/2019 1:38:14 AM PDT by princess leah (Princess Leah)
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http://www.google.com/maps/place/36°50’42.0%22N+40°04’38.6%22E/@36.8476054,40.0704662,14z

My concern is that might be exactly what the “independent fighters” want us to do?

We say we are leaving and not going to be involved in the matter then drop a MOAB on our way out? The optics of that course of action are not good.

Leaving the fight completely as opposed to LEADING the effort to prevent instability and leadership voids being filled by ISIS or ISIS sympathizers??


3 posted on 10/18/2019 1:47:43 AM PDT by FRinCanada2 (JOIN the worldwide fight against Human Traffickers !)
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No big deal. Except for this one location there is calm according to the article. It can take time for the orders to filter down to all the commanders and then on to all troop locations.


4 posted on 10/18/2019 1:54:14 AM PDT by billyboy15
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That was my initial assessment of this report as well.

My concern again is that ANY fighting during the 120hr agreed upon “pause” or “ceasefire” has the potential to undermine US credibility and US ability to “enforce” our “ceasefire” agreement.

Agreed?


5 posted on 10/18/2019 1:59:45 AM PDT by FRinCanada2 (JOIN the worldwide fight against Human Traffickers !)
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Has anyone heard any numbers of injured and/or deaths?


6 posted on 10/18/2019 2:08:09 AM PDT by deek69
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To: FRinCanada2

https://twitter.com/edemarche/status/1185108055031242759?s=21


7 posted on 10/18/2019 2:09:31 AM PDT by FRinCanada2 (JOIN the worldwide fight against Human Traffickers !)
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Not yet but that info should be reported soon and is very relevant to US credibility during this 120hr period which officially started just a few hours before this report.


8 posted on 10/18/2019 2:12:30 AM PDT by FRinCanada2 (JOIN the worldwide fight against Human Traffickers !)
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Our credibility or lack thereof will be determined by our actions if in fact the cease fire doesn’t hold.


9 posted on 10/18/2019 2:31:35 AM PDT by billyboy15
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https://youtu.be/AqW-Pgm9PJY

Do you concur with President Trump’s assertions that we need to let them fight a little bit in order for them to appreciate the fact that a peaceful agreement is way better?

That question being largely rhetorical since I think there is some wisdom in that approach. Peace through superior firepower is by far the best position to be in.

That being said, I can’t help but picture a school kid bully threatening all the kids in school because everyone is afraid to stand up to the bully. Until one day the bully is publicly humiliated by the “new kid” who desperately tries to negotiate peace between the bully and the all the victims of bullying. When the bully pushes the “new kid” too far and gets publicly PWNED lol.


10 posted on 10/18/2019 3:01:34 AM PDT by FRinCanada2 (JOIN the worldwide fight against Human Traffickers !)
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journalists have reported continued fighting in the Syrian town of Ras al-Ayn on Friday morning

After ABC deliberately aired that fake attack by Turkey, I'm hesitant to believe anything anymore that is being reported from Syria.

This morning on Fox they showed smoke rising from some Syrian town, claiming it was from a shelling after the cease fire was announced. How do we know the video wasn't taken last week? And why only a couple locations where smoke was rising? It just didn't make sense.....

11 posted on 10/18/2019 3:08:56 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (I'm in the cleaning business.......I launder money)
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The main question is this ....

Which side is the “bully” and which side is the “victim” of being bullied?

Clearly the United States is like the teacher breaking up the fight between the bully and the “new kid / negotiator” trying to resolve the bullying issue without having to involve the school principle who will just call the cops and expel both kids for fighting pending an investigation to determine who the agressor is


12 posted on 10/18/2019 3:13:45 AM PDT by FRinCanada2 (JOIN the worldwide fight against Human Traffickers !)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Great point. Also “missing” are live feeds which normally come from multiple sources. Best to grab a fresh bowl of popcorn and watch how this plays out.


13 posted on 10/18/2019 3:16:10 AM PDT by FRinCanada2 (JOIN the worldwide fight against Human Traffickers !)
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I say kill em all until there is no hope of us wasting billions on nation building.


14 posted on 10/18/2019 3:25:56 AM PDT by eartick (Stupidity is expecting the government that broke itself to go out and fix itself. Texan for TEXIT!)
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Sounds like “tough talk” that is not practical if the US or US interests are not at stake what benefit to the US is there in simply killing both sides of a conflict. Or better yet using the bully Vs victim analogy can you imagine the police responding to a school principal asking for assistance in resolving a flight and simply ignoring the underlying issue which led up to the fight. Or worse blaming the bully victim by punishing / expelling the bully victim from school insisting that if all the victims just gave the bully their lunch money then there would be “peace”. lol


15 posted on 10/18/2019 3:39:07 AM PDT by FRinCanada2 (JOIN the worldwide fight against Human Traffickers !)
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Or maybe the Kurds just don’t want to be forced to leave?


16 posted on 10/18/2019 3:48:47 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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Agreed, does that make the Kurds the Bully or victim standing up to the bully?

Or is Turkey the “victim” trying to reclaim their “lunch money” from the Kurd/Bully?


17 posted on 10/18/2019 3:54:09 AM PDT by FRinCanada2 (JOIN the worldwide fight against Human Traffickers !)
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Agreed, does that make the Kurds the Bully or victim standing up to the bully?

Or is Turkey the “victim” trying to reclaim their “lunch money” from the Kurd/Bully?

I think this gives Turkey and the President an opportunity to make the Kurds look like the ones violating the agreement.

18 posted on 10/18/2019 4:00:25 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Hot Tabasco

and might be Kentucky again
fake news despises Trump


19 posted on 10/18/2019 4:09:08 AM PDT by SisterK (its a spiritual war)
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>>>Or the “cease-fire” / “pause” was not agreed to by the forces on the ground

The agreement reached was between the US and Turkey. The Kurds were not part of the deal. The deal essentially gives Turkey all that it sought from the start.

After the Kurdish forces are cleared from the safe zone, Turkey has committed to a permanent cease-fire but is under no obligation to withdraw its troops. In addition, the deal gives Turkey relief from sanctions the administration had imposed and threatened to impose since the invasion began, meaning there will be no penalty for the operation.


20 posted on 10/18/2019 4:31:58 AM PDT by oincobx
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