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Claims of a Labor Shortage Are Just Not True`
Townhall.com ^ | October 20, 2019 | Bob Harden

Posted on 10/19/2019 4:51:04 AM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 10/19/2019 4:51:04 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

There are law firms that specialize in fake job searches used to justify bringing in people on H1B visas to work for their client companies. They must save a ton on labor costs to go through that much trouble.


2 posted on 10/19/2019 4:53:50 AM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: Kaslin

Another factor that pushes businesses to hire illegal aliens is minimum wage laws. These laws make hiring young people so expensive that businesses turn to illegal aliens and pay them under the table. This saves in both wages and overhead, which adds considerably to hiring costs.

The laws appear designed to cause the importation of millions of illegal aliens. I keep wondering why, especially in an era when over 25% of young people still live with their parents. I’d like to see American citizens put first, for a change. But pro-America positions are now termed “nationalist” and reviled.


3 posted on 10/19/2019 5:09:00 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org)
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To: Kaslin

Getting a job is only step one. Accruing experience and knowledge and moving up the ladder us step two. Letting in foreigners cuts off Americans from a job AND a future.


4 posted on 10/19/2019 5:17:38 AM PDT by TalBlack (Damn right I'll "do something" you fat, balding son of a bitc)
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To: Kaslin
There is never a labor shortage only a wage shortage.


5 posted on 10/19/2019 5:18:24 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: exDemMom

My idea is to verify every one is working 40 hours/wk through pay check stubs. Once the 2000 hours are verified at the end of the year congress gets together and decides what the lowest incomes should be. A 10% across the board ‘wage tax’ will be used to pay for it. A 40 hour work week will make people too tired to cause trouble.


6 posted on 10/19/2019 5:18:35 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: exDemMom

There is zero correlation between raising the minimum wage and the unemployment rate if you TAKE THE TIME TO LOOK AT THE RAW DATA. None.


7 posted on 10/19/2019 5:20:07 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Kaslin

Government Inc. needs it’s customer base on the dole, so they’ll vote for more government.


8 posted on 10/19/2019 5:28:47 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: central_va

“There is zero correlation between raising the minimum wage and the unemployment rate if you TAKE THE TIME TO LOOK AT THE RAW DATA. None.”

If the market rate for something is 10, and you artifically raise a price to 15, you will get less of it.

Either you are wrong, or I am wrong.

Can’t have both, UNLESS something not in these simple examples is causative.


9 posted on 10/19/2019 5:32:39 AM PDT by Macoozie (Handcuffs and Orange Jumpsuits)
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To: Kaslin
we're out of people."

I think he means we're out of hardworking, useful, employable people. Think about it. demoncraps keep getting elected because lazy, useless, unemployable leeches exist.

I sure as heck wouldn't hire a leftist.

10 posted on 10/19/2019 5:37:46 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (They are openly stating that they intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live.>>>)
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To: TalBlack

“Letting in foreigners cuts off Americans from a job AND a future.”

That is certainly reflected in our long-running negative birthrate. Meanwhile, foreigners are trafficked here to fill the housing vacated by idled Americans.

Meanwhile here in the NYC metro area they are building housing on every patch of available land - while the region is losing population - and will insist we need Third Worlders to fill that housing (and most importantly to Dems - FILL THE SCHOOLS).


11 posted on 10/19/2019 5:39:14 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Kaslin

My quick input on this is that I’d hire a lot more employees if there wasn’t such an enormous bureaucratic cost attached to each of them. Between payroll taxes, insurance and administrative work it might cost me $30/hour to hire someone and pay him $20/hour. Under those circumstances I’ll just pay someone $28/hour as a contractor and save myself a little bit of money and a whole lot of aggravation.


12 posted on 10/19/2019 5:44:48 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Knowledge makes a man unfit to be a slave." -- Frederick Douglass)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

We said this when Obama was President and to be fair, we have to say this even under Trump... the better indicator of unemployment is the LABOR FORCE PARTICIPATION RATE (LFPR)

Although the Unemployment rate is down, the LFPR is still TOO LOW at about 63%. We are moving in the right direction, but we got WAYS to go.


13 posted on 10/19/2019 6:10:28 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: Kaslin

Candidate Trump was talking about the “real” unemployment rate being 40%. I don’t think that a decline in the headline unemployment rate from 5% to 3.5% is enough to bring the “real” very far below 40%.


14 posted on 10/19/2019 6:11:42 AM PDT by oincobx
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To: Kaslin

Maybe now a bachelor’s degree won’t be required to work the fast-food drive-thru anymore.

JK, but only to illuminate the stupidity in some jobs that “require” a college “education” but in reality do not...


15 posted on 10/19/2019 6:11:52 AM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: Kaslin

There can be no “labor shortage”.

There can only be “a shortage of people willing to work for you at $X wage”.


16 posted on 10/19/2019 6:15:19 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." -- Voltaire)
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To: central_va
There are many studies and analyses that state otherwise. In addition, politicians apparently time minimum wage increases with periods of economic growth to mask the employment suppressing effects of minimum wage increases.

“For example, policy makers may decide to increase the minimum wage when economic growth is predicted so that any negative impacts on the unemployment rate due to the minimum wage increase may be offset by growth.“ This paper a also examines the relation between minimum wage and unemployment. The strongest correlation is between the proportion of businesses that are impacted by minimum wage and unemployment. In other words, if only 5% of businesses pay minimum wage, they are the sector where unemployment increases. Furthermore, the minimum wage increases cause these businesses to seek more experienced and skilled workers, effectively cutting the young inexperienced workers out of the job market. I will note that this particular paper seems not to have actually been published, so it may not be the best source of information. And since I am a scientist, not an economist, I am not the best judge of the quality of this paper.

According to this analysis by the Mises Institute, there is a lot of revisionism by minimum wage proponents with respect to the effects of minimum wage hikes. Just look at the question logically: if you have a small business and can afford to hire two minimum wage employees, and the minimum wage is increased, what must be the effect on your bottom line? What are your options to mitigate that effect? Can you realistically raise prices and not expect any effect on sales? Maybe your option is to decrease hours for your two employees and work longer hours yourself. Maybe your business is amenable to automation, like many fast food places, and you fire both employees and install a robot for a large capital outlay up front, but lower costs later (plus depreciation). Etc. Logic tells me that many of the revisionist analyses obscure the pertinent data.by burying it in other data sets so that any effect minimum wage has is swamped out by other factors. This reflects the same mindset as the politicians mentioned above, who time minimum wage increases with economic growth to counterbalance its suppressive effects on employment rates of the most vulnerable.

If minimum wage does not impact employment of unskilled workers, then why are there no more extreme minimally paying jobs such as movie ushers? Why is the youth unemployment rate so high that more than 25% of young people still live with their parents? Why do so many businesses choose to hire unskilled illegal aliens and pay them under the table, thus avoiding both minimum wage constrictions and payroll taxes?

17 posted on 10/19/2019 6:36:58 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org)
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To: SeekAndFind; oincobx
The labor force participation rate is one of the most misleading statistics out there. If the LFPR is “only” 63%, then that simply means the other 37% of American adults aren’t working for ANY reason.

In 2016, candidate Donald Trump successfully portrayed this as a situation where 40% of American adults were unemployed because the local steel mill shut down 30 years ago, but the reality is that the single biggest factor in the declining LFPR over the last couple of decades has been the massive growth of RETIREES.

18 posted on 10/19/2019 6:46:21 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Knowledge makes a man unfit to be a slave." -- Frederick Douglass)
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To: Sirius Lee
I think he means we're out of hardworking, useful, employable people. Think about it. demoncraps keep getting elected because lazy, useless, unemployable leeches exist.

I sure as heck wouldn't hire a leftist.

You understand the issue perfectly. Thanks to our educational system and MSM brainwashing, the unemployable rate has risen above 50%. For some companies, this means taking on the expense and complication of trying to hire H1B's. For some it means hiring illegals under the table and paying off the local Federal politician to look the other way. For smaller companies, it usually means the owner keeps doing four or five management jobs himself - even after his company becomes profitable enough to hire qualified specialists.

The damage a new hire with an entitled or "progressive" attitude can do is far more than any benefit that employee can provide, regardless (or perhaps because of) the employee's educational level.

Newer companies prefer to hire and train new people - they have learned that "experience" is often just polite shorthand for a slacker who knows how to game the corporate system. That newer company usually prefers to bring in young people with clear minds and train them in that company's methods and philosophies. All things being equal, it would be better if those people were young American citizens - but the intense brainwashing our government-media complex gives them starting at age five makes that difficult to accomplish in these times.

19 posted on 10/19/2019 7:05:21 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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To: Kaslin

It is true

I visit manufacturers most of which need qualified workers. They simply are not available.

There are people looking for jobs but are either tainted with drugs or won’t reliably show up for work.


20 posted on 10/19/2019 7:07:53 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Progressives are existential American enemies)
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