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How to Destroy Two Million Jobs ^ | November 23, 2019 | Liam Sigaud

Posted on 11/23/2019 5:47:06 AM PST by Kaslin

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To: Kaslin
So, while a $15 minimum wage would have sweeping negative effects on the U.S. economy, there is little evidence that it would do much good for those it’s meant to help. In short, American small businesses, consumers, and workers will pay the price.

But leftards don't care. Passing minimum wage laws makes them feel so good inside. Plus more unemployed causes more parasites dependent on the giverment, who will vote for dums.

21 posted on 11/23/2019 6:31:48 AM PST by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: Kaslin
...the basic laws of economics can’t be negated with political rhetoric or wishful thinking...

However that pretty well summarizes leftist economic policy. They seem to favor policies that have 3 characteristics: centralized control/regulation; they sound good or look good on paper; and they make the leftist sheeple feel good, like they're doing something good. Problem is, they fail just about 100% of the time due to unintended or ignored obvious consequences of these policies. Leftist should never be allowed to influence policy.

22 posted on 11/23/2019 6:32:48 AM PST by ThunderSleeps ( Be ready!)
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To: Kaslin
Everybody hates small business. Just start one, and you’ll find out. People who take control of their own economic futures are highly unpopular with just about every interest group. :)

The sickest thing is listening to Leftist politicians blather about helping small business when it is obvious looking at their legislative proposals that they would like nothing better than to give those kulaks a bullet to the back of the head and seize whatever loot is left.

23 posted on 11/23/2019 6:34:43 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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To: gunsequalfreedom
...people making ten of thousands of dollars a month.

Are you voting for Sanders or Warren?

24 posted on 11/23/2019 6:37:59 AM PST by Fresh Wind (The Electoral College is the firewall protecting us from massive blue state vote fraud.)
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To: central_va

Is thinking like this why VA has trended the way it has?

Cave to idiocy to get idiocy off the table?

When has that ever worked?

If the Left were truly concerned, or the Republicans truly wanted to address the issue, Propose and implement the folowing.

The working poor pay no taxes, Both the employer and employee share go to the employee, not the government. The same with unemployment taxes. Pay the working poor the full FRUITS OF THEIR LABOR.
his has a positive impact on the working poor, on their employers, on the customers, on the economy.
It has a positive political impact on whoever pushes it.

It has a negative impact on one stakeholder, the gummint.

So the question comes down to should the voters and their representatives do what is best for the people? Or best for the gummint?

25 posted on 11/23/2019 6:50:43 AM PST by spintreebob
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To: central_va
That big dip you see in 1974 was when I, and the peak of the baby boom generation, entered the workforce. I thought I was damn lucky to have a job which paid $2.10 per hour, about 20% higher than the prevailing minimum wage.

I took all the overtime I could get. It would be interesting to graph a third line showing labor force availability.

26 posted on 11/23/2019 6:53:10 AM PST by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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To: Kaslin

I’m in Texas, where we still have the federal minimum wage, so I tip pretty generously for good service.

But when I do visit the Northeast and California, I play by a whole different set of rules. I figure that the tips are already built into the pricing, so nothing more. I see it as a way to preserve their jobs, since it’s less likely I’ll eat out if I have to tip on top of the $15 minimum wage.

27 posted on 11/23/2019 6:54:33 AM PST by BobL (I drive a pickup truck to work because it makes me feel like a man.)
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28 posted on 11/23/2019 7:00:17 AM PST by rlmorel (Finding middle ground with tyranny or evil makes you either a tyrant or evil. Often both.)
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To: Bullish

The McDonald’s team in the store a couple of miles from my house prove your point. They get my order wrong one out of five times (twice in one memorable trip).

29 posted on 11/23/2019 7:24:48 AM PST by Hardastarboard (Three most annoying words on the internet - "Watch the video")
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To: central_va
This graph shows t raising the min. wage had no effect on youth employment None at all. (1950-2013)

Um, no it doesn't. The graph uses a ratio, not real youth unemployment. All this shows, is that the increase in the minimum wage affected the employment landscape somewhat equally. That doesn't meant it didn't have a negative impact.

30 posted on 11/23/2019 7:53:54 AM PST by Go Gordon (I gave my dog Grady a last name - Trump - because he loves tweets.)
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To: duckman
they are just ahead of the times
the 15.00 an hour minimum wage ushers in robotics to do their jobs
the politicians give them a guaranteed income
along with welfare, and illicit drug sales, they gots it made
31 posted on 11/23/2019 8:56:10 AM PST by Karma_Sherab
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To: Karma_Sherab

The problem I have with the $15.00 jobs is they were designed for entry level experience into the job market. Young applicants with no job experience at all. They were not designed to feed a family. IMO

32 posted on 11/23/2019 9:03:10 AM PST by duckman ( Not tired of winning!)
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To: duckman
The $15.00/hr is not only ushering in robotics; but causing employers to cut staff, reduce hours to part time, causing some workers to loose company insurance and causing some food services to shut down completely.

How's that checkout line in your local supermarket,Home Depot,Walmart, looking these days? More auto checkouts? Fewer people operating the cash registers? Baggers? Hmmmm? Minimum wage at those spots is ZERO!!!No Vay Kay. No sick leave no coffee breaks...just work. Duh!

33 posted on 11/23/2019 9:34:46 AM PST by Don Corleone (The truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth)
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To: Don Corleone

“How’s that checkout line in your local supermarket..”
Same here. Home Depot, Walmart, Harris Teeter etc. With the exception of Home Depot having two, Walmart, and Harris Teeter have ten and expanding. Only one employee in each to supervise the robots. Even those employees are ‘seasoned’, there before robotics installed and rotated to other parts of the store to avoid boredom.

34 posted on 11/23/2019 9:42:01 AM PST by duckman ( Not tired of winning!)
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To: Fresh Wind
Are you voting for Sanders or Warren?


35 posted on 11/23/2019 12:49:09 PM PST by gunsequalfreedom
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To: Bulwyf
What’s wrong with making tens of thousands a month?

In some circumstances, nothing is wrong with it. But as a mid-level government employee getting $150,000 a year and a pension equal to that amount per year or more, it is not sustainable. And in the case where the managers failed a company miserably but still continue to get paid very high salaries, that is a problem also. Or at least I think so.

If you are an entrepreneur or in some very specialized field, it is wonderful the rewards are there.

If you are Hunter Biden sucking tens of thousands of dollars a month from the U.S. foreign aid trough, it should be jail time.

36 posted on 11/23/2019 12:52:45 PM PST by gunsequalfreedom
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To: gunsequalfreedom

Oh ya, you’re right on target there. Up here in northern Alberta, all the government people want to make what the private sector oil and gas guys do. As you said, it’s not sustainable, all it does it drive up taxes and costs of living and hurts everyone at that point.

37 posted on 11/23/2019 12:56:20 PM PST by Bulwyf
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To: Lockbox
It ain't the wages; it's the TAXES!!

If (when!) the minimum goes up; all other prices will adjust to match; as they always have.

What WILL gouge you is the fact that tax recipts will go UP over all, since the higher wages will be taxed at a higher rate than now.

When you buy a $12 steak now, and you make $20 bucks and hour; the $24 steak when you make $40 bucks an hour is the same percentage.

Your $40K a year is going to be taxed at a lower percentage than your $80K will be!

38 posted on 11/23/2019 2:13:40 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

Yep, dirty little secret, taxes!

39 posted on 11/23/2019 8:18:28 PM PST by Lockbox
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To: duckman
They were not designed to feed a family. IMO
Yes, they were to be a steppingstone to more responsibility,more pay. However, the "youts" didn't pay attention in school. And, the ones that did, were fed a diet of liberal crap, so entry level jobs will be their permanent lot in life.
and NO, I don't agree with a federal minimum wage
Let the market decide
40 posted on 11/24/2019 3:38:55 AM PST by Karma_Sherab
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