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U.S. companies are forcing workers to train their own foreign replacements
Axios ^ | Dec 29, 2019 | Stef W. Kight

Posted on 12/29/2019 3:00:36 PM PST by NobleFree

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To: impimp
Your ivory-tower theory is contradicted by several real-life stories on this thread.

the invisible/unknown future beneficiary

Read a thread - the future benefits turned out to be illusory.

161 posted on 12/31/2019 8:06:10 PM PST by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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Read a thread - the future benefits turned out to be illusory.

[from FReepmail:] Anecdotes from a few loud-mouthed internet randos without an audience

As opposed to a a stealthy internet rando with a FReepmail audience of 1? LMAO!

vs. real numbers from corporate accounts clearly showing the benefits

Of course the payroll reductions are easy to measure; the decline in quality of output, less so but no less real.

162 posted on 01/01/2020 8:04:00 AM PST by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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I’m saying it is on you to prove that companies make a loss and not a profit when they pursue foreign skills for their operations - the market would’ve killed this faster than any government regulation if there were any truth to your claim.

Markets do respond - but they are not perfect and do not turn on a dime. I'm not calling for government micromanagement but for the broad policy of "hire American" that our President has proclaimed. And that policy is not for the purpose of running businesses better than they run themselves, but for preserving the robust middle class on which every modern society depends.

the general trend of the data (which is that these methods are profitable to the corporations to adopt and follow, and which they’ve adopted as a result).

I'd love to see some of that data - all I've seen from you so far is ivory-tower bromides about the market.

I am not the one quoting anecdotes - the ‘audience’ you refer to in my case is immaterial to the discussion at hand.

If one's audience is immaterial when not telling anecdotes, why is it material when one is?

163 posted on 01/01/2020 9:59:25 AM PST by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: NobleFree
Proof of all my claims? The market performance of all these companies which outsource - all public data.

Another bigmouth who's long on claims, but thinks it's MY job to do his homework. <yawn>

164 posted on 01/01/2020 1:13:30 PM PST by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: NobleFree

“The results and findings of this study indicate that offshoring has a significant negative effect on financial performance as measured by return on assets and net profit margin.” - Per Berthsson & Jean Gombya, “Offshoring and the effect on firms’ performance” (2014). http://lup.lub.lu.se/luur/download?func=downloadFile&recordOId=4461213&fileOId=4461257

“study results strongly support the theory that American firms can significantly improve performance by relocating manufacturing to the United States.” - Risher, Jeffrey J., “From Offshoring to Reshoring: A Conceptual Framework for Manufacturing Location Decisions in a Slow-Steam World” (2016). https://digitalcommons.kennesaw.edu/dba_etd/23/


165 posted on 01/01/2020 1:42:34 PM PST by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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Why didn’t you post my main reply excerpt?

Don't like my excerpts - post to the forum, coward.

Berthsson & Jean Gombya have “proof” that offshoring is a loss but nobody in the market wants to listen to them... clap! clap!

(Maybe we ought to mandate the market to follow these geniuses against the wisdom of corporations which have succeeded

They showed corporations haven't succeeded. But don't let facts get in the way of your windy rhetoric.

166 posted on 01/01/2020 3:58:24 PM PST by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: NobleFree

The benefit is to the consumer and the shareholder - their savings go toward investments in new businesses, which benefit Americans.


167 posted on 01/01/2020 9:17:37 PM PST by impimp
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To: impimp
See post #165 - your ivory-tower theorizing is not supported by the facts.
168 posted on 01/02/2020 6:46:53 AM PST by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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"includes a slide on how to interact with Indian workers"

Well, isn't that special.

Indeed. The first thing you have to know about indian 'workers' is that they are culturally conditioned to be absolutely unable to say "no", or "I don't know". They will absolutely lie through their teeth when you ask them if they can do something. I've spent way too much time in my life dealing with this particular issue. The vast majority that I've worked with are nice folks and all, but are also pretty much incompetent unless you provide incredibly detailed instructions of exactly how a task is to be accomplished if it's not a simple boiler-plate thing that they have done hundreds of time. Asking them to think outside of the box is simply a waste of time.

169 posted on 01/11/2020 1:59:56 PM PST by zeugma (I sure wish I lived in a country where the rule of law actually applied to those in power.)
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