Skip to comments.Chinese copper traders declare force majeure
Posted on 02/07/2020 6:20:45 AM PST by texas booster
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Copper users, ranging from car companies to home appliance makers, face a sharp drop in sales if the outbreak continues to worsen.
Consultancy Wood Mackenzie said demand for copper-related products could suffer further disruptions after more than a dozen provinces imposed restrictions on peoples movements in an attempt to contain the disease.
That has prompted copper traders to embrace the use of force majeure, even if it comes at the expense of their business partners.
Sellers have to accept our terms because the disease has made business contracts invalid, said an executive at Shenzhen Yongfulu, a copper trader in southern China with annual revenues of about Rmb40m.
Yongfulu imported 4,000 tonnes of copper last year. The company asked its suppliers in Chile and Somalia to postpone shipments of 400 tonnes of copper for at least two weeks.
A plunge in Chinese purchases would send shockwaves through the global copper market. The nation accounts for half of global consumption of the metal, according to the International Copper Study Group. Copper futures traded in Shanghai have fallen 8 per cent since the beginning of this year.
The coronavirus epidemic, which has killed more than 600 people and infected thousands more, has rattled Chinas supply chains. Local smelters have continued to operate, but the decision to shut down roads in cities across China has caused delays in them receiving raw materials.
The practice of force majeure is controversial. Dan Harris, a lawyer who has worked on force majeure cases against Chinese firms, said an overuse of the clause will hurt Chinese copper importers in the long run.
Legally, these Chinese companies may be in the right, said Mr Harris. But [copper sellers] are going to remember that. A year from now they are not going to sell to those Chinese companies.
Not importing copper and slowing down on LNG.
I knew I should’ve shorted the sh*t out of the Baltic Dry Index...
I don’t know the state of America’s strategic materials supply, but this seems like an excellent buying opportunity that will keep the lid on inflation for a decade to come.
Declaring "force majeure" for the coronavirus epidemic seems reasonable. The Chinese copper buyers are seeking delays, not cancellation.
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Somehow, I sense that this coronavirus thing is waaaaaayyyy bigger than what we are lead to believe............
One thing for certain.
Every country in the world will be affected economically.
What will be even more troubling is when shortages of raw materials once made in United States but where production has been off-shored to China and no US domestic supplier exists and alternate supplies from other Asian countries are also shut off.
Worst of all, many Chinese contractors have subcontracted production labor to even more third world countries like Cambodia or Bangladesh where contract and property rights for foreigners range from pretty sketchy to non existent and stuff just disappears
That Chinese traders are calling for it does not mean that suppliers have to accept it.
From MSN, at 4:30 am CST:
China LNG Force Majeure Rejected as Virus Chaos Sparks Dispute
Two of Europes biggest energy companies rejected a Chinese force majeure on liquefied natural gas contracts in the latest twist to a drama thats gripping global commodities markets.
Royal Dutch Shell Plc and Total SA didnt accept the legal grounds for the move by China National Offshore Oil Corp. that would have freed it from its contractual obligations to take delivery of the shipments, according to people with knowledge of the matter.
While CNOOC is still likely to cancel delivery of the prompt cargoes, suppliers will probably seek compensation from the Chinese firm, ...
Please watch this Wuhan video starting at 36 minutes until about 54 minutes.
The narrator is an idiot but the video is beyond belief.
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CNOOC too on LNG:
"Somehow, I sense that this coronavirus thing is waaaaaayyyy bigger than what we are lead to believe............"
You're absolutely right. In a country of a billion people, 600 wouldn't be a crisis. Nor would this story be happening. There was a slip noted yesterday about the number of dead being around 25,000. I've got to wonder if it's not double that by now to have this kind of impact.
It’s probably not too late to do that.
Will check on it, thank you.
The narrator is an idiot. Ignore his voice and the sides of the video pane. Just watch the video clips starting at 36.
Coppers been dropping before this virus was announced. Oil too.
I guess pretty soon China will declare it’s going to devalue it’s currency again and the tariff deal is off due to the Kung flu.
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