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What to Expect from President Trump's SECURE Act
Townhall.com ^ | February 21, 2020 | Donald Lambro

Posted on 02/21/2020 7:48:27 AM PST by Kaslin

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1 posted on 02/21/2020 7:48:27 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Bkmk.


2 posted on 02/21/2020 7:55:17 AM PST by moovova
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Isn’t this what was called a death tax? Also how do they determine if the money put in to these accounts was pre-tax or not? This is almost as bad as the Social Security System. If it is not one its another that the politicians want your money.


3 posted on 02/21/2020 8:06:39 AM PST by Nuke From Orbit
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To: Kaslin
Like everything, there are positives and negatives:

Trump Signs Secure Act Into Law With Spending Bill

4 posted on 02/21/2020 8:06:54 AM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: Kaslin

We have 2 checking accounts with POD’s attached for SS CHECKS, HIS NAVY PENSION, WE PAY BILLS OUT OF and 2 small by the less most $120 K trust funds. None of it adds up to a lot, and both of us are drawing our small IRA’s now. How does it affect trust funds? Funds are in Annuities, till 1 of us dies.


5 posted on 02/21/2020 8:14:22 AM PST by GailA (Intractable Pain, a Subset of Chronic pain Last a Life TIME at Level 10.)
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To: Robert DeLong

I read the little article and I’m still looking for the positives.

Written by a democrap, sponsored and promoted by the insurance association. What could be wrong with it for the consumer?

Fluff and stuff and then a big hammer at the end. The RMD was not enough to get their hands on the money fast enough.

We are still a banana republic. One where there is no long term fixed set of taxation and laws for financial planning. We change tax policy ever 10 years whether we need to or not. It is lousy.


6 posted on 02/21/2020 8:24:37 AM PST by Sequoyah101 (We are governed by the consent of the governed and we are fools for allowing it.)
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To: Kaslin

Our grandkids are our beneficiaries and we have instructions/hints in our wills advising them to transfer them into their own IRAs to get around any of the existing death taxes - and let them know that the IRS will demand some distributions earlier than if they had their own IRAs - looks like we will have to do some research and revamp...other accounts and cash from sale of our condo should help them with college if they so desire if they can keep the IRA status of the main portion of our estate safer for longer.


7 posted on 02/21/2020 8:24:59 AM PST by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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It almost sounds like the IRA owners should pull their funds out of there IRAs prior to death, take the tax hit at their lower rate as non-earners...THEN pass the funds on to their kids.


8 posted on 02/21/2020 8:31:43 AM PST by moovova
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To: Kaslin

Commentators have been warning about this for a couple of decades.

At the end of the Bush43 administration, a CA Dem congresscritter openly said Congress was “going to have to tap” IRAs/401(k)s as a new source of revenue.


9 posted on 02/21/2020 8:48:10 AM PST by Calvin Locke
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It almost sounds like the IRA owners should pull their funds out of there IRAs prior to death, take the tax hit at their lower rate as non-earners...THEN pass the funds on to their kids.

Having busted my ass to save a substantial amount in my 403(b), this is exactly what I plan to do.

Additionally, the practice of 'bracketing' when I get to 60 years old and beyond is a good strategy.
10 posted on 02/21/2020 9:01:54 AM PST by farming pharmer
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To: Sequoyah101

The positives were that more people can get involved in savings, at least according to the article. My guess is President trump needed the spending bill, and will look to regain the House to repeal the SECURE Act. Sometimes you have to take the long way around. Because it sure doesn’t sound like legislation that President Trump would support.


11 posted on 02/21/2020 9:14:08 AM PST by Robert DeLong
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Seriously, just pull the money out in chunks as we go thru our “final” years...not all at once... and give to the kids using the IRS allowed “gift” exclusions. IRS gifting exclusions aren’t just for your kids, I don’t believe. They can go to sons-in-laws, daughters-in-laws, grandkids...

(I’m not a tax advisor nor did I spend the night at a Holiday Inn Express, so check with your own advisor!)


12 posted on 02/21/2020 9:16:47 AM PST by moovova
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Getting people motivated to take care for themselves is scant praise for something that is so disruptive to financial planning for the few who do it or are able to do it.

That it may be repealed is a hopeful thought but doubtful. Consider what happens when ALL of these various tax cuts, including the corporate rate change, terminate in 2025 as I am given to understand they will. There are bigger fish to fry than the “secure” act in the one term that remains.


13 posted on 02/21/2020 9:34:25 AM PST by Sequoyah101 (We are governed by the consent of the governed and we are fools for allowing it.)
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To: Sequoyah101

For a lot of people, it is not lack of motivation, but rather a lack of resources to employ someone who does understand how to grow your money, if they are not lucky enough to grasp it on their own. The vast majority of Americans are totally unprepared for retirement, while another large portion are underfunded for their own retirement, let alone passing on wealth to family members.


14 posted on 02/21/2020 9:47:29 AM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: Kaslin

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15 posted on 02/21/2020 10:26:24 AM PST by aquila48 (Do not let them make you care!)
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To: Robert DeLong

And that is because nobody is taught anything about it anymore and not taught why they should know it. It has also become over complicated.

Save for cars, college and homes. Invest for the future. Both use different methods.

What a shame we are teaching children so little in screwl. I quiz the kids here about what they have learned at screwl when the come here for work. It is very very little of any consequence but they all know a whole lot about some kind of sports. Wonderful.

I’ve told several they should just quit screwl and take up a trade. That would really be true if the trades have not become so technical.


16 posted on 02/21/2020 8:22:54 PM PST by Sequoyah101 (We are governed by the consent of the governed and we are fools for allowing it.)
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I have no argument with you there. Like I said I think President Trump signed this into law because it was bundled into the budget, and that if he should get a Republican House back and keep a republican Senate, he will ask them to end it. If not then I guess he messed up, from the overall sound of it act.


17 posted on 02/21/2020 9:10:09 PM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: moovova

I imagine the amounts and other circumstances would make a difference in how to bets handle it...I’m gonna get with “my guy” (longtime personal friend who is in the business) and see what changes we need to make.


18 posted on 02/22/2020 2:19:22 AM PST by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: trebb

Best suggestion yet...got to look out for the kIds.


19 posted on 02/22/2020 4:29:32 AM PST by moovova
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To: trebb
Our grandkids are our beneficiaries and we have instructions/hints in our wills advising them to transfer them into their own IRAs to get around any of the existing death taxes - and let them know that the IRS will demand some distributions earlier than if they had their own IRAs

But can you take an IRA/401k disbursement and put it back into an IRA? At best, I think you would have to take the disbursement, pay taxes, then you can put it into a Roth IRA. Up to the IRS limits on Roth contributions.
20 posted on 02/24/2020 11:15:42 AM PST by Svartalfiar
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