Posted on 03/01/2020 7:03:45 AM PST by Kaslin
Packages that are in plastic are better chemically sterilized. 90+% isopropyl, or ethanol or 1% bleach which is 3:1 3% household bleach to water. Use a sprayer and soak with any of those. Bleach needs to stay wet for ten minutes. The alcohol will evaporate on it’s own. The Wal-Mart by my house has been out of 91% iso and bleach for days now people buy it before it makes off the stockers pallets.
Note to the folks running Mini Mike’s campaign: You lot might want to ensure your boss sees this before he shoots his mouth off on the subject tomorrow and sticks his tiny feet in his big yap.
It is a virus that is likely to spread widely through our population, making many sick for a time and killing some.
The flu is among a family of other viruses that already do that, though perhaps more mildly both in spread and mortality.
Avoidance procedures are therefore to some degree similar, and the analogy will likely make some apprehend it more quickly.
So the comparison is normal and to some degree useful.
Is it also detrimental in that it might lull some people into a dangerous complacency? I don’t think we can know that yet.
That's not Kosher!
But it is yummy...
One can’t reason with some people.
......”This is not an either/or situation. It’s concurrent. Can Americans not grasp that?”......
It appears you have difficulty understanding Americans do have a pretty good handle on this both medically and people being informed....most just want to know the best preventatives they can do to avoid this virus just as they do the flu. And that appears to be similar in preventive measures.
......”This is not an either/or situation. It’s concurrent. Can Americans not grasp that?”......
It appears you have difficulty understanding Americans do have a pretty good handle on this both medically and people being informed....most just want to know the best preventatives they can do to avoid this virus just as they do the flu. And that appears to be similar in preventive measures.
The disease will definitely be easier to track once the flu season is over. However, I believe that you are incorrect in assuming that it is less infectious than the flu. I saw a report yesterday, yes on the Internet, that indicated that the R(0) of this disease was between 4.5 and 7.0. If that is even code t the truth, that would make it several times as communicable as the flu, with exactly 0 people in the entire population vaccinated against it. Given that the flu has been infecting about 40 million people her year even with many tens of millions been vaccinated against it I would seem to suggest that’s something north of 100 million people could ultimately be infected by this disease. No, not this month or next, it will take a while for that to happen. But the world went from zero people infected with Spanish flu to roughly 500,000,000 people infected with it in about 18 months, so we need to be aware of that possibility and take appropriate precautions on both a personal and societal level.
RNA virus like a coronavirus virus based cold mutate fairly often and rapidly so it’s nearly impossible to develop a vaccine for the “common cold”. The current vaccine push for coronavirus virus family is at the binding proteins which change less rapidly rather than antibodies to the main portion of the RNA chain. This is why Israel thinks they will have a working vaccine in a few weeks they have one that works on the binding proteins of a very similar virus if they can tweek it to target COVID19 protein bobs your uncle.
I guess it was a good time for you to show your ass! This article suggested that a vaccine is just around the corner. You suggested this coronavirus is akin to the common cold. If there can be a vaccine for THIS 'novel' version, surely the common cold can be eradicated. Feel free to show your ass some more.
100%
“It’s not the flu.”
no,it’s not the flu, but its clinical symptoms and course of progression are indistinguishable from the flu. only specialized testing can make the distinction.
furthermore, it’s spread like the flu, infects the upper respiratory tract like the flu, and it’s starting to look like the morbidity and mortality are similar to the flu, that is, almost all healthy people who contract coronavirus fully recover after a brief illness, and those most likely to succumb are the aged who also have one or more co-morbid conditions, the very same population most likely to succumb to the flu ...
the above was explained yesterday at Trump’s coronavirus press conference by Antony Fauci, world renowned infectious disease expert, who heads the NIH’s National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases ... he also explained that no “mutated” variants have been seen and that a person who recovers has immunity from being reinfected ...
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/29/health/coronavirus-flu.html
the purpose of comparing it to the flu is so regular folks can better understand what coronavirus is and is not, and indicate that, though many more infections are likely, that there is no reason for panic, something that too many Freepers are loath to accept because they revel in spreading fear, uncertainly, doubt, panic, misinformation, and just plain ‘ol garden variety boolshite ...
“The secret to a great steak is to add a pat of butter after flipping it on the grill.”
I like to melt butter and finely chopped garlic in a pan then take my metal flavor injector heat it up in the oven to 180 degrees suck butter up in it and inject into thick steaks before grilling the butter soaks in ohhhh so juicy afterwards a nice medium rare and its drool time.
Thanks for the civil reply!
“Americans can’t even grasp the implications of China being shutdown:”
china is no longer “shutdown” ... examples: Apple products production has fully resumed and starbucks have all reopened in china ...
> Trump is falling into a trap minimizing this because it’s only going to get bigger in the days and weeks ahead. <
Agreed. Among other things, Trump should put a moratorium on all non-citizens entering the country, especially by air. There is little downside if he does things like that. But there is a huge downside (political and otherwise) if he does too little.
As an aside, the government isn’t even screening people coming in from countries where there has been an outbreak. Here’s an article about that:
https://newyork.cbslocal.com/2020/02/27/coronavirus-travel-advisories/
Basal cell carcinoma and pancreatic cancer are both cancers, but the latter’s far more likely to kill you.
“Does infrared kill germs and bacteria that might be on products from say, China?”
infared is another name for heat, and enough heat will kill anything, but of course could damage the thing being heated.
ultraviolet blows apart the DNA in viruses and bacteria, but like heat, affects only the surface of things (unless you apply enough heat to melt something into a puddle) ... but have no fear, coronavirus doesn’t survive very long on surfaces, so any goods shipped from china via boat (most of them), would arrive coronavirus free ...
“Also, Trump is probably 100% correct that this fades away in April.”
I sure as hell hope so, there is a lot riding on that. If the weather warms on this continues to rise look out we are getting a economic crash, a big one. Bloomberg has already started his media blitz that he has the plan “to save the country and the economy” with a prime time 3 minute spot on two of the three networks. I think he purposely left one out because he is smart enough to know that it would be bad optics to go on all three and look like he was throwing his money around.
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