Posted on 03/01/2020 7:03:45 AM PST by Kaslin
“Never mind - I see where Cook said it...and his stock broke even Friday. Let’s see how it performs next week, as the insiders obviously know what’s going on.”
resumption of apple manufacturing in the PRC is probably a good bell-weather about the resumption of manufacturing in general in china, and given how opaque the PRC gov is about everything, bell-weathers are probably pretty much all we have to go on at this point ... just like (at least to me), re-opening starbucks in china is a bell-weather that indicates that non-essential socialization is probably starting to return to normal ...
Chinese manufacturing is coming back starting now, through a month or two from now. Trump is correct that spread will drop in April. That's especially true in China where there is less AC and more outdoor activity. Outdoor markets will no longer be infection zones.
Hell..... I’m not 85
I’m only 77
I won’t be decimated
... over 85 dying ... new (D) voters being bussed in from those cemeteries.
And temporary. The spread will be cut down significantly in a month or so (Trump is correct). Once that happens they can reopen factories there.
“either we realize this was the fault of relying on globalization”
hopefully, the “silver lining” in this is exactly that realization, AND that both the US gov and private industry actually take action to rectify that very dangerous situation ... the next crisis arising out of communist china may not be as benign as this one, and actually create total worldwide chaos ...
Ebola is a rare but deadly virus that causes fever, body aches, and diarrhea, and sometimes bleeding inside and outside the body.
As the virus spreads through the body, it damages the immune system and organs. Ultimately, it causes levels of blood-clotting cells to drop. This leads to severe, uncontrollable bleeding.
The disease was known as Ebola hemorrhagic fever but is now referred to as Ebola virus.
It kills up to 90% of people who are infected.
How Do You Get Ebola? Ebola isn’t as contagious as more common viruses like colds, influenza, or measles. It spreads to people by contact with the skin or bodily fluids of an infected animal, like a monkey, chimp, or fruit bat. Then it moves from person to person the same way. Those who care for a sick person or bury someone who has died from the disease often get it.
More about it in the link
But really, it isn't the death that is the problem, it is the disruption. Flooded hospitals, product shortages, school shutdowns, quarantines, and economic loss. Just watch Seattle for the next week for a preview. Or look at the last week in Seoul, or Milan.
Yes. You are informed.
Let me ask you: How many ICU beds with 50 miles of you? How many of those beds are open?
How many negative Pressure isolation rooms are open?
How many rooms have advanced ventilation and breathing apparatus?
How many of all of those room are open right now.
My point is that for most areas in the country, an additional 50 cases of ANYTHING that causes serious respiratory issues are going to maximize your system.
It doesn’t matter if it’s the flu, this virus, some monkey virus from space, or a pulmonary embolism....extra people will drown a full system.
What is your plan then.
Note, I am not saying anyone is going to die. I am not—and have not—ever suggested that. I’ve told people over and over to “buy a can of beans.” Not rush out and fill your carts at Costco.
You, and others, are so fast to dismiss any “fact” in this situation you only think of snarky responses and don’t consider any “what if’s” beyond what Fox News is telling you.
None of you seem to consider the “non flu” implications of overwhelmed and abandoned systems.
My hair, what’s left of it, is firmly on my head. It’s not on fire. I am not angry, and I am not squealing like a little girl. I am looking at a situation and thinking, what if.
I would love to have a discussion. But your side wants to dismiss the existing facts. Facts from China, Korea, and Iran. You tell us those numbers are lies. For the most part I agree. I think they are probably low. And that simply reinforces the case for looking at the what if’s.
I people here don’t want to consider the what if’s...and their basis...then there is no need for discussion.
But, if you see that as dramatic, whining, hysteria...I cannot help you.
Just buy a can of beans.
“Ok, hardly no one will die. But they will all be over 85. So FR will be decimated. Lol.”
ROTFLOL!
Sorry, but currently that is not true. We have had 10,000 deaths in the U.S. alone in the 2019-2020 flu season. Now that may change. The problem is there are a lot of unknowns with the coronavirus. Such as: will it run its course when warmer weather takes over? how fast will it spread? what will the mortality rate be without a vaccine to aid in combating it?
About a third of common codes are coronaviruses. The one death experienced in this country was an individual who had underlying medical issues to begin with.
Because there are so many unknowns, it is a little too early to descend into panic mode. It could be a raging pandemic, or it could turn out to be another common code virus.
Everybody just needs to take a deep breath,, with a mask if you so desire 8>), and relax until we find out more about this virus.
So far China is the hardest hit. By the time they identified it vast swaths of their society had been exposed, so it makes sense that the vast majority of cases exist in China. There has been spreading to other countries, but the numbers are far from alarming at this point. Nor is the death rate, or at least the quoted death rate by the Chinese. But there have been reports that the death rate is vastly understated. Unfortunately there is no way to confirm these claims. That is another factor driving hysteria. This is why honest numbers are important, and trust is very important. At some point in time China will either not be able to hide the reality, or the reality will prove to be that their numbers were not suppressed. Right now all we can do is watch other open nations to see what the impacts might be. They are our best method of gauging the virus and its impact.
The protocol they are attempting is to get people to call first, then get evaluated for risk, then get tested, then go the hospital if they are very sick.
Products are being bought ahead of time, manufacturers will ramp up and fill the immediate needs. Not a negative for the economy and can be positive.
Schools are worthless indoctrination camps. It would be better to shut them down for good. Quarantines can be done home by home with some people moved out of apartments if they can't be left there safely. Some smallish areas might be quarantined but we are not China. We are not going to tear up roads.
The economy will take a quick hit. It could turn into a sustained hit which would not be good. But a quick hit will not lower subsequent growth or keep the market from anticipating that growth.
I do that with bacon bits (made from the neighbors ultra super duper extra thick bacon). So yummy!
> Just buy a can of beans. <
That has been my argument as well. The government should be taking reasonable precautions, like limiting air travel from infected countries. And people should be taking reasonable precautions, like buying some bottled water and nonperishable food items.
There really is no downside to doing any of that.
“It’s about 10x higher mortality than the flu”
that’s simply ignorant bullshit:
“Early estimates of the coronavirus death rate from Wuhan, China, the epicenter of the outbreak, have been around 2 percent. But a new report on 1,099 cases from many parts of China, published on Friday in The New England Journal of Medicine, finds a lower rate: 1.4 percent.
The coronavirus death rate may be even lower, if — as most experts suspect — there are many mild or symptom-free cases that have not been detected.
The true death rate could turn out to be similar to that of a severe seasonal flu, below 1 percent, according to an editorial published in the journal by Dr. Anthony S. Fauci and Dr. H. Clifford Lane, of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, and Dr. Robert R. Redfield, director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/29/health/coronavirus-flu.html
This is nice piece, and it touches on something that should be explored in depth.
3. Why This Constant Appetite for Doom?
Probably because we seem to be headed for tranny reading hour 24/7, and there is no political solution. The people who could and should stop this slide to Gomorrah have been cowed into keeping their heads down and grilling in the suburbs. Their barely allowed outlet of protest is to vote for Donald Trump.
I don’t think there’s really an appetite for doom. It’s more like death by 1000 cuts vs. just getting it over with.
The population of the United States and Europe is being replaced on purpose, and literally no elected official can say anything about it (except for triumphant Leftists). What was once a real society is being transformed into a multicultural hellscape. The future looks like it will be morbidly obese beige people sitting alone in basements ordering sex toys online and watching crappy superhero movies in Spanish.
George Soros made his fortune by frightening people.
Selective facts from selected countries. Italy is a good example of what could happen in a cold climate area. Cases rising rapidly but their quarantines were only put in place a week ago. 3% mortality, mostly elderly.
Iran is an authoritarian shithole that just shot 1500 peaceful demonstrators and dumped them in a mass grave. They have mandatory group meetings every week in close contact to facilitate virus spread. They are ruled by mystics who believe in magic. They had almost no testing until recently. They are also a cold climate (30's and 40's the past month).
People who use Iran as an example of anything can be dismissed right off the top.
That's just not true...or people wouldn't be preparing for potential home containment as they are, which includes the medical facilities they would have access to should they develop a serious case......
You just assume too much that people aren't or haven't considered the ‘what ifs’.....they recognize we are not even remotely close to that at this juncture rather focusing on on how they can and will be prepared for whatever may or not develop.
Which BTW includes a few extra cans of beans...
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