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Why is Russia reporting so few COVID-19 cases? Some say it's a cover-up
abcnews ^ | 21 March 20 | Patrick Reevell

Posted on 03/21/2020 8:27:08 PM PDT by hapnHal

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1 posted on 03/21/2020 8:27:08 PM PDT by hapnHal
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To: hapnHal

Potatoe Vodka is a prophylactic fluid?


2 posted on 03/21/2020 8:29:06 PM PDT by Paladin2
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I just don't get it. Or maybe I do.

The fact that these newsies appear perplexed about information that comes out of totally unreliable nations is amazing.

IT IS ALL F**KING FALSE !!

3 posted on 03/21/2020 8:30:44 PM PDT by onona
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To: hapnHal

I never heard them complain about China.


4 posted on 03/21/2020 8:33:09 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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Why?

Like Ida Amin frequently stated "They died in a traffic accident".

5 posted on 03/21/2020 8:33:36 PM PDT by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, chances will be taken that's fore sure)
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To: hapnHal

Russia shut down their border to China. That’s why.


6 posted on 03/21/2020 8:35:49 PM PDT by Dogbert41 (Jerusalem is the city of the Great King!!!)
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To: hapnHal

President for Life Putin is a savior in his own mind having no requirement of accounting.


7 posted on 03/21/2020 8:35:53 PM PDT by highpockets
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Notice Russia is suspect by MSM avoids taking China to task for hiding the truth, refusing to allow our CDC in to investigate, and we are supposed to believe China’s numbers.


8 posted on 03/21/2020 8:38:28 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: highpockets

Putin closed all their borders, starting with the border to China. A hard closure

He did this many weeks ago

ISNT it interesting how our media loves communist China, but hates Christian, non communist Russia?


9 posted on 03/21/2020 8:38:32 PM PDT by rintintin (qu)
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To: hapnHal

In Russia virus doesn’t kill Russian, Russian kills virus.


10 posted on 03/21/2020 8:40:10 PM PDT by TigersEye (MAGA - 16 more years! - KAG)
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To: Karl Spooner

[I never heard them complain about China.]


You must have missed all the articles about crematoria running 24 hours and doctors getting arrested. What’s interesting is that they haven’t bothered to do any the legwork with respect to Russia. My guess is that the deaths coming in from Spain and Italy are much headline-grabbing.

Nonetheless, there is some smoke, even based on the shoestring resources Western journalists have devoted to Russia’s bug situation. For one thing, Russia’s covid-19 test is 1/16 as sensitive:


[But the Russian medical news site PCR News this week said it had acquired a copy of the test’s make-up.

According to PCR News, the Russian test is based on the same method used by other countries.

But the Russian test, PCR News wrote, only detects the virus when there are over 100,000 copies of it per milliliter in a sample. That is far more than in other countries’ tests. A test in use in the U.S., for example, will pick up the virus with just 6,250 copies.

“That would mean it’s about 10-16 times less sensitive than what’s available in the U.S.,” Carmen Wiley, president of the American Association of Clinical Chemistry, told ABC News by a phone. At such a level, she said there was a risk the Russians were missing cases, in particular where people were asymptomatic. ]


For another, large numbers of pneumonia patients are not being coded as pneumonia patients or even tested. That’s a page out of Xi Jinping’s playbook:

[ “I am categorically sure, there are more coronavirus patients than the authorities are stating,” said Anastasia Vasilyeva, who leads Alliance of Doctors, a group that campaigns for health care improvements, and an ally of the opposition leader Alexey Navalny.

Those concerns have been fueled by figures from Russia’s state statistics agency that show Moscow has experienced a surge in recorded pneumonia cases this year. Data from the agency Rosstat showed Moscow had 6,921 pneumonia cases in January, an increase of 37% from last year.

Moscow’s health department then released its own figures showing cases in January were actually 8% lower. But Rosstat told Reuters it did not understand how the Moscow department could have reached that result.

Vladimir Cherpunov, a leading virologist at the Novosibirsk institute, known as Vektor, that is leading the government testing effort, two weeks ago told The Siberian Times that he could not understand why all pneumonia patients were not being tested.

“All these cases are now ascribed to seasonal flu,” Cherpunov said. “That means that maybe the web is not cast very wide.”

Vasilyeva said her group has been receiving complaints from doctors describing wards already overflowing with pneumonia patients and saying that they are forbidden from putting pneumonia as the cause on death certificates. She released an audio recording she said was from a doctor at Moscow’s Mukhin hospital, who said that 240 beds have now been set aside for patients with severe “pneumonia.” ]


If Putin keeps this up, Russia’s daily covid-19 body count is going to dwarf Italy’s, and soon. And unlike Xi Jinping, he doesn’t have the repressive powers necessary to keep information from getting out, once foreign news bureaus decide to focus serious resources on the Russia beat of the covid-19 story.


11 posted on 03/21/2020 8:51:29 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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Yes, the rumor is alcoholics are immune to the Chinese Communist Party Wuhan Kung Flu...which is pretty much every adult in Russia.

/sarc


12 posted on 03/21/2020 8:52:44 PM PDT by twister881
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[ISNT it interesting how our media loves communist China, but hates Christian, non communist Russia?]


That will come as news to anyone who’s read the news stories about Uighurs in gulags, doctors getting arrested and crematoria running 24 hours a day. Russia is Christian. So was Nazi Germany. So was King George’s Britain. Russia is our enemy not because of its religion, but because of its world-conquering ethos.


13 posted on 03/21/2020 8:56:05 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: Zhang Fei

The truth is probably somewhere in the middle. Russia did well by closing the border early and is now just reporting low numbers and keeping their economy moving.


14 posted on 03/21/2020 8:56:36 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Epstein pulled a Carradine, the bozo.)
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To: twister881

You laugh but I was a drunk for 20 years and never got the flu. The year I quit I got so sick I thought I was going to die. Anecdotal yes but true.


15 posted on 03/21/2020 8:57:37 PM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (If you want a definition of "bullying" just watch the Democrats in the Senate)
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To: Zhang Fei

Russia is our enemy not because of its religion, but because of its world-conquering etho

Russia is not our enemy.


16 posted on 03/21/2020 9:02:52 PM PDT by rintintin (qu)
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To: Zhang Fei

I never heard MSM complain about China’s testing methods or reporting methods. I may have missed it if they did. Seems like they swallow the figures as facts in every story I’ve seen.


17 posted on 03/21/2020 9:03:05 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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[Russia is not our enemy.]


It certainly acts like our enemy, by spreading disinformation against us. Russian-sponsored websites like Veterans Today are promoting the theory that the virus is an American weapon designed to exterminate Orientals:

https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/national/article177744986.html
https://www.veteranstoday.com/2020/03/02/postulating-covid-19-a-weapon-against-china/

Frankly a lot of Veterans Today is recycled Soviet and Tsarist propaganda. As Richard Pipes, the old Kremlinologist once said, the problem with the Soviet Union wasn’t Communism, but the fact that it was Imperial Russia with a Red veneer. Without Imperial Russia’s world-conquering ethos, no one would care, as long as Russians kept their butchery within their borders. Unfortunately, the Russians had to attempt to expand their borders. That’s ultimately what Russia’s issues with its neighbors have been all about - its relentless lust for new lands to annex.

BTW, I’ve been following Veterans Today since for almost 20 years, pretty much since the website started up. I posted the McClatchy thing just to provide a 3rd Party assessment. The Oxford academics quoted by McClatchy filled in some of the blanks on where VT got their pre-written essays, many of which had this really foreign-sounding perspective and verbiage.


18 posted on 03/21/2020 9:13:45 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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“It certainly acts like our enemy, by spreading disinformation against us”

Yes, that’s what Hillary, Schiff and the Democrats say. Russiagate!


19 posted on 03/21/2020 9:15:10 PM PDT by rintintin (qu)
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Wodka.


20 posted on 03/21/2020 9:16:27 PM PDT by crusty old prospector
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