Posted on 04/05/2020 4:34:23 AM PDT by bitt
Yes, I have been trying to explain this to people, but some see a conspiracy everywhere.
Please identity your COVID risk level and age before posting fear mongering BS. Thanks, the still living.
All the Flu Bros screamed “but X number die every year from the flu”!
Nope. Those numbers are estimates by the CDC. The vast majority are never confirmed flu deaths. They get lumped into a category called “Influenza like illness”.
or ILI.
What we are doing with Covid is nothing new.
Again, if the clinical picture fits the disease, we as physicians are likely to attribute the death to that condition especially during an epidemic.
We’re killing the US economy and using shoddy data to do it.
Well, I’m a 64 yo ER physician with hypertension.
How about you?
So someone dies with fever, hypoxia and viral pneumonia during a pandemic. guess what they died of?
Yep, most of us will die with cancer cells present, but that often isn't the cause of death. The conspirators among us would argue otherwise.
Too bad our worthless MSM has no interest in scrutinizing this detail.
Doing nothing new?!
We don’t croak the economy for frigging flu.
LOL.
OK.
Reason no longer applies around here.
Big respect, regardless.
Reductio absurdum is a valid argument to expose faulty logic of a proposition. Ridiculous? Ask Aristotle.
If you still think this is the flu there’s no reasoning with you.
Have a nice day.
Heck, we didn’t croak the economy for H1N1 and the death toll for that was allegedly higher...
Jeez louise, who the heck knows anymore. Maybe the death toll was even higher, but since Barry was prez the numbers were fudged.
We need to be able to trust the numbers, dammit.
So Doc quit projecting fear onto the normally healthy i.e. 95% of the population. Have some integrity and dignity for once. Show us the medical community isn't all crazy nuts.
I saw a post on another site from a cop in Florida. His mother was transferred to a hospice last week. She was in the final stages of cancer. After she died, she tested positive for Covid-19. She never had one symptom ( difficulty breathing,etc .. ). They put down as cause of death - COVID-19. He was really pissed.
This is being done all over the world
K, since I think there’s decent evidence now that the stats are, at best, unreliable, I’d argue we don’t know what the hell this is, in terms of risk anyway.
If the Gateway Pundit, Jim Hoft, various cretins at the American Thinker, etc., continue to post their asinine opinions, I will have to continue to post these facts, which make their puerile gibberish look stupider every day.
Deaths from Covid19 in New York City, by date:
3-28 222
3-29 104
3-30 136
3-31 182
4-1 278
4-2 188
4-3 305
4-4 387
NYC had 2,220 deaths from Influenza and Pneumonia in 2014 - an entire year. It had 2,254 deaths from Covid19 in 10 days.
https://data.cityofnewyork.us/Health/New-York-City-Leading-Causes-of-Death/jb7j-dtam
Another rough estimate for number of deaths in NYC every year,
from Quora - 1 death every 9 minutes, 158 per day, 57,000 per year
https://www.quora.com/How-many-people-die-in-New-York-every-day
New York City - Not the entire State of New York, but just New York City - has an average death rate of 158 per day. But 387 people died in New York City yesterday attributed to Covid19. If all of those deaths were misattributed because doctors and George Soros are lying to us, we still have to wonder, why were deaths in New York City at least 244% higher than normal? Why did 387 people die when normally only 158 people die? (and the 387 is just the Covid19 deaths, there were obviously accidents, heart attacks, drug overdoses, cancer deaths, from people who are not Covid19 positive). I wish Jim Hoft and Cristina Laila could answer that, I’m very curious.
Why are people minimizing the deaths, who would benefit from their propaganda? It’s one thing to say we need to bring back the economy, and people can believe in different predictions about the future, but why question the validity of the data on deaths which have already occurred? Who benefits from this propaganda? There is only one answer:
China.
I’m beginning to think these news sources like “Jim Hoft” and “Christina Laila” and people who post here like “Impimp” and “SeekandFind” are not Americans. They are Chinese puppets trying to deflect the blame from the Chinese, and to maximize the death and destruction from the virus by lulling people into a false sense of security. Otherwise I can’t understand why they would lie and distort facts every day.
“What if someone is hit by a car or shot in a robbery, then dies ... but coronoavirus is later found in them ...
are they classified as a corona death?
Now you are being ridiculous.”
Perhaps not. Peron is hit by car, enters hospital has some internal injuries and consequently bleeds internally and dies. Blood work done upon admission shows he has contracted the virus.
Death certificate lists cause of death as Chinese virus.
Every day we see more and more evidence illuminating the hoax being perpetrated upon the world in the form of a hyped up rhetoric designed specifically to frighten everyone to death so they will comply.
However they will overdo this as usual and as more and more of the truth leaks out people will eventually refuse to be herded like sheep.
The FAKE NEWS reporting on this sham will also give cover to the President when he advises America to return to work and use simple stated precautions such as social distancing when ever possible, hand washing and face masks.
He will also advise as will his medical advisers that those in most danger remain isolated for the time being.
I believe this will happen much sooner than most realize.
If a presumed positive can count as WuFlu death stat, there’s a problem.
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