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China signals plan to take full control of Hong Kong
Washington Post ^ | 5-21-20 | Anna Fifield and Shibani Mahtani

Posted on 05/21/2020 7:24:38 AM PDT by SJackson

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To: datura
Internal Chinese issue if you’re willing to ignore the treaty they signed to return it from England.

Unfortunately that's what makes it a largely internal matter. England could raise the issue, but I doubt they will. And it's moot in a few years anyway.

21 posted on 05/21/2020 7:52:28 AM PDT by SJackson (Suppose you were an idiot, suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself, Mark Twain)
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To: SJackson

England should show concern that its treaty with China is being abrogated.

The world community should back them up. (but won’t...)


22 posted on 05/21/2020 7:52:40 AM PDT by CondorFlight
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To: SJackson

Four US presidents built up this wanna-be modern day evil empire. With Trump they ran into a wall.


23 posted on 05/21/2020 7:54:09 AM PDT by libh8er
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To: Phil DiBasquette
Essentially we can ban HSBC and the Bank of China as well

Could, though I believe HSBC is now headquartered in London.

24 posted on 05/21/2020 7:54:16 AM PDT by SJackson (Suppose you were an idiot, suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself, Mark Twain)
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To: Olog-hai

This is a HUGE issue on China’s part, but American’s are not going to die for Taiwan or Hong Kong ... not gonna happen


25 posted on 05/21/2020 7:56:23 AM PDT by 11th_VA (May you live in interesting times - Ancient Chinese Proverb)
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To: SJackson

What exactly can we do? Hong Kong is attached to China. That’s one reason why this whole “foreign interference” seems so disingenuous.

The French helped us back in the 1700’s, but the brits were as far away as the French were.

Basically, Hong Kong is resisting the Nazi’s while being part of Germany.


26 posted on 05/21/2020 8:00:44 AM PDT by BlackAdderess
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To: SJackson

Never let a virus crisis go to waste ...


27 posted on 05/21/2020 8:03:45 AM PDT by 11th_VA (May you live in interesting times - Ancient Chinese Proverb)
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To: SJackson

The smart ones in HK have obtained US Canadian UK or Australian citizenship and will bail out. S. China doesn’t really like the Commie Bejiners much anyway. They would revolt to if they could.


28 posted on 05/21/2020 8:12:18 AM PDT by Oldexpat (Stand strong VA.)
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To: BlackAdderess

What can we do? We can rescind the special trading policies that the US has in place with Hong Kong if the CCP takes over, denying them the monetary profits that China would receive in “business as usual”.

Otherwise, we can crank up the tariffs and begin full sanctioning of certain Chinese items produced in Shenzhen and Guangzhou where the PLA has concentrated its forces (and production companies).

We can make this economically unpalatable as much as possible - it won’t stop the CCP - ask the citizens of Tibet or Macau.

And we need to formally recognize and enter military basing agreements with Taiwan. I can see our President doing this if China takes Hong Kong early.


29 posted on 05/21/2020 8:19:57 AM PDT by datura
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To: BlackAdderess

And I guess that’s the issue. Hong Kong is literally fighting Nazis.


30 posted on 05/21/2020 8:24:58 AM PDT by BlackAdderess
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To: SJackson

“Hong Kong is part of China” is the leftist slogan.


31 posted on 05/21/2020 8:26:24 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Zhang Fei

Correct, in spite of its name (Hong Kong-Shanghai Banking Corporation).


32 posted on 05/21/2020 8:27:36 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: 11th_VA

Sure, just like no Americans died to rescue Hungary from the USSR.

I seem to recall that Douglas MacArthur said “there is no substitute for victory”. The USA seemed to have fled from that notion very quickly after WWII.


33 posted on 05/21/2020 8:29:09 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: SJackson

China needs cutting off from the US economy. Take the hit, learn the lesson and move on. We did not spread freedom, we created a monster and strengthened an enemy.

Time to cut losses.


34 posted on 05/21/2020 8:40:05 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: Olog-hai

Gracefully surrender the things of youth: birds, clean air, tuna, Taiwan.


35 posted on 05/21/2020 8:41:02 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: dfwgator
Will the peaceful abolition of private property be possible?

It would be desirable if this could happen, and the communists would certainly be the last to oppose it. Communists know only too well that all conspiracies are not only useless, but even harmful. They know all too well that revolutions are not made intentionally and arbitrarily, but that, everywhere and always, they have been the necessary consequence of conditions which were wholly independent of the will and direction of individual parties and entire classes.

But they also see that the development of the proletariat in nearly all civilized countries has been violently suppressed, and that in this way the opponents of communism have been working toward a revolution with all their strength. If the oppressed proletariat is finally driven to revolution, then we communists will defend the interests of the proletarians with deeds as we now defend them with words.

The Principles of Communism
These are the seductive words the commies used and still used towards what Lenin termed “useful idiots”. Any heinous violence on the part of the commies comes about because they were “driven to” such acts, they say.
36 posted on 05/21/2020 8:49:21 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: dfwgator
* That is, used and still use, rather.
37 posted on 05/21/2020 8:51:22 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: SJackson

Red China will take over Hong Kong and there is little the US and other western countries can do about this. We can set tariffs and sanctions but little else.

We should make it plain to the Chinese communists that taking over Taiwan will be resisted as an act of war to deter that from happening. Only re-election of Mr. Trump for another 4 years will deter Red China as to Taiwan as the Democrats won’t do anything to stand up to China.


38 posted on 05/21/2020 8:54:43 AM PDT by RicocheT (Don't argue with an idiot; people watching may not be able to tell the difference.)
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To: SJackson
China signals plan to take full control of Hong Kong

That sucks. Better go to war now or something.

39 posted on 05/21/2020 8:56:48 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (Plans are worthless, but planning is everything. - Dwight Eisenhower, 1957)
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To: Olog-hai
These are acts of war, and against the USA.

LOL!

40 posted on 05/21/2020 8:57:42 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (Plans are worthless, but planning is everything. - Dwight Eisenhower, 1957)
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