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China signals plan to take full control of Hong Kong
Washington Post ^ | 5-21-20 | Anna Fifield and Shibani Mahtani

Posted on 05/21/2020 7:24:38 AM PDT by SJackson

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To: BlackAdderess
I’m not so sure Hong Kong can’t take the Chi-Coms down.

Militarily? I doubt it. Other than that, they've no real leverage.

61 posted on 05/21/2020 9:52:04 AM PDT by SJackson (Suppose you were an idiot, suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself, Mark Twain)
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To: BlackAdderess

Which vision will the Chinese people choose? That of Hong Kong, or that of the corrupt powers that be?


62 posted on 05/21/2020 9:54:21 AM PDT by BlackAdderess
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To: Olog-hai

I know who the UN is and which side it would take. I mention it because England registered their treaty with China with the UN. That’s where they, England, would take a dispute. Which would go nowhere.


63 posted on 05/21/2020 9:54:45 AM PDT by SJackson (Suppose you were an idiot, suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself, Mark Twain)
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To: SJackson

They (The CCP) don’t care about Hong Kong. They want to move all of the financial services to Shanghai.


64 posted on 05/21/2020 9:56:54 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: SJackson

More doubltalk idiocy from you.


65 posted on 05/21/2020 9:57:08 AM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: SJackson

Grant American citizenship to every citizen of Hong Kong.


66 posted on 05/21/2020 9:57:45 AM PDT by Wuli (Get)
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To: Future Snake Eater

“Explain to me how many Americans need to die to protect Taiwan and Hong Kong.”

You propagandists are so obvious.


67 posted on 05/21/2020 9:58:25 AM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: ifinnegan

You gonna be jumping into or landing on Taiwan with us and the Marines, tough guy? You ready to take a bullet for the Taiwanese? If not, why not?


68 posted on 05/21/2020 10:00:24 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (Plans are worthless, but planning is everything. - Dwight Eisenhower, 1957)
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To: Future Snake Eater
I apologize; I was under the impression you understood the enemy here. This is how they think:
… To fight and conquer in all our battles is not supreme excellence; supreme excellence consists in breaking the enemy’s resistance without fighting.

— The Art Of War, III:2
That is the manner of warfare they have used against us for many decades; is it not open to us also?

To think in terms of military altercations, never mind just one side falling in battle (ours) is one-dimensional, with all due respect. I have to wonder what happened to the spirit that General Patton promulgated, when he said the following:
No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country.

— Speech to 6th Armored Divison, 05/31/1944

You are not all going to die. Only two percent of you right here today would be killed in a major battle. Every man is scared in his first action. If he says he’s not, he’s a goddamn liar. But the real hero is the man who fights even though he’s scared. Some men will get over their fright in a minute under fire, some take an hour, and for some it takes days. But the real man never lets his fear of death overpower his honor, his sense of duty to his country, and his innate manhood. …

— Speech to 3rd Army, June 1944
But like I said, we still have the opportunity to turn Red China’s tactics back on them.
69 posted on 05/21/2020 10:02:58 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: SJackson
As far as you’re concerned, they are part of Red China. You have let Red China get inside your head, with all due respect.
70 posted on 05/21/2020 10:03:56 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Olog-hai

War is war. That means combat. That means things blowing up and people being killed. If you’re implying using the D, I, and E of DIME instead of the M, then you need to clarify your thought. Quoting Patton doesn’t help either since he’s obviously known for war.


71 posted on 05/21/2020 10:05:24 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (Plans are worthless, but planning is everything. - Dwight Eisenhower, 1957)
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To: SJackson

The way I see it, this is down to whether or not the Communists can deliver on their promises to the Chinese people, and Hong Kong offering a viable alternative when nobody wants to deal with CCP types anymore. Just how attached is the average Chinese person to the little princelings and queenlings prancing around playing “wolf warrior”?


72 posted on 05/21/2020 10:08:19 AM PDT by BlackAdderess
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To: Vermont Lt

Yes, they’ve done a great deal in Shanghai the last few decades. Kind of a second Hong Kong for foreign business and tourism.


73 posted on 05/21/2020 10:08:55 AM PDT by SJackson (Suppose you were an idiot, suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself, Mark Twain)
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To: BlackAdderess

Even if they could economically, it would still be a police state. But I don’t think any of the emerging middle class looks to Hong Kong as a model. They seem to be interested in shopping mostly. Capitalism has it’s benefits. May not mind being in a police state for now. The rural and urban poor is probably the greater threat.


74 posted on 05/21/2020 10:12:24 AM PDT by SJackson (Suppose you were an idiot, suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself, Mark Twain)
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To: Oldexpat

The handwriting has been on the wall for a while. The smart money started leaving Hong Kong two years ago.


75 posted on 05/21/2020 10:12:26 AM PDT by .44 Special (Tiamid Buacach!)
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To: Future Snake Eater

Once again, bs from ChiCom lovers.


76 posted on 05/21/2020 10:13:27 AM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: Olog-hai

They are part of Red China. I’m not aware of a nation on earth that disputes that. Including the US. And England who has standing there. I’m not aware of a viable Hong Kong independence movement, armed or otherwise. Barring something completely unexpected sometime in the 27 years Hong Kong will simply be another city in Red China.


77 posted on 05/21/2020 10:15:54 AM PDT by SJackson (Suppose you were an idiot, suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself, Mark Twain)
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To: outofsalt

DNC applauds it and says “It’s for the children.”


78 posted on 05/21/2020 10:21:02 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: SJackson
I agree, it’s a wonderful place, and largely wonderful people. And in addition to being a major financial and manufacturing center, it’s a first class shopping destination.

Aside from a prettier harbor, Hong Kong is today indistinguishable from Shenzhen and Guangzhou in these areas. The high-end shopping malls in Guangzhou will make your eyes pop out of your head - we have nothing equal to them in the USA.

The only difference is the surviving independent streak in Hong Kong politics and media, which totally freaks out the CCP. They are desperate to stamp out any dangerous spark of rebellion, just as the previous emperors were. And they are making a huge financial mistake in doing so.

79 posted on 05/21/2020 10:23:08 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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To: SJackson

The party seems to have spawned a particularly obnoxious variety of affluenza.


80 posted on 05/21/2020 10:23:46 AM PDT by BlackAdderess
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