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Appeals court orders Michael Flynn judge to respond to demand for dismissal of case against ex-Trump advisor
CNBC.com ^ | 5/21/2020 | Kevin Breuninger and Dan Mangan

Posted on 05/21/2020 2:06:17 PM PDT by gwjack

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To: WASCWatch; Political Junkie Too

AFAIK we have not determined if the original FBI 302 forms still exist.


101 posted on 05/21/2020 7:31:44 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Mozart tells you what it's like to be human. Bach tells you what it's like to be the universe.)
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To: gwjack

This is all because Cocaine Mitch stunned D.C. yesterday by hammering Sullivan.


102 posted on 05/21/2020 8:04:30 PM PDT by montag813
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To: j.havenfarm

It’s a 3 judge panel, two of which are a Reagan and a Trump appointee. The writ will be granted. The beauty of that is that I don’t think the judge can appeal to the full circuit. He’s not a party. Maybe since it’s mandamus he can, I’d have to look that up. But even if he can appeal to the full court, he will probably lose in the face of a recent decision by that circuit that makes what the judge did unlawful. And even if the full circuit loses its mind, the SC will slap him down so hard his jowls will jiggle for days.


103 posted on 05/21/2020 8:08:32 PM PDT by Defiant (I hope the Russians trick me into voting for Trump again in 2020.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

AFAIK we have not determined if the original FBI 302 forms still exist.
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I’m not sure how it COULD NOT still exist. If it was composed on a computer and forwarded up the chain via an email attachment, than that email would exist in an archive somewhere in the FBI’s systems. It should also be recoverable from the computer of the agent who composed it. And on the computer(s) of the person(s) who received it and revised it.

Goodness, they’re the FBI. Certainly they have digital forensics experts who know how to retrieve those items. Unless, of course, they simply don’t want to “find” it.


104 posted on 05/21/2020 10:55:29 PM PDT by House Atreides (It is not a HOAX but it IS CERTAINLY A PRETEXT.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

Whether the original 302 exists, or not, it makes no difference regarding the dismissal of the Flynn case.

The fact that corrupt prosectors, or FBI agents, are hiding or destroyed it is further evidence the case be dismissed.


105 posted on 05/21/2020 11:28:57 PM PDT by WASCWatch
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To: House Atreides
It should also be recoverable

should....

I seem to remember claims that Hillary's emails, Strzok's phone texts, and DNC server data "disappeared."

106 posted on 05/22/2020 12:05:29 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Mozart tells you what it's like to be human. Bach tells you what it's like to be the universe.)
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To: WASCWatch

WRT the dismissal of the Flynn case, I agree. The original 302 would be grounds for a political scorching, and I hope, criminal charges and firings.


107 posted on 05/22/2020 12:15:23 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Mozart tells you what it's like to be human. Bach tells you what it's like to be the universe.)
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To: old curmudgeon

It’s CNBC. Of course not.


108 posted on 05/22/2020 1:54:35 AM PDT by CommieCutter ("Trump is god emperor and he will win." -- some hacker)
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To: SmokingJoe
SJ, the Fokker decision quote supplies all the information necessary to see that Judge Sullivan may not be done yet:

“[T]he `leave of court’ authority gives no power to a district court to deny a prosecutor's Rule 48(a) motion to dismiss charges based on a disagreement with the prosecution's exercise of charging authority.”

The only reason the Fokker decision says Judge Sullivan can not deny the motion to dismiss is "a disagreement with the prosecution's exercise of charging authority." So, Judge Sullivan has room to argue that is not the reason he has so far delayed (not denied) the motion to dismiss. His arguments might include:

1. Either the current or the former prosecutors lied to me, and I am entitled to find out which ones lied before dismissing the case.

2. The DOJ is playing games by moving for dismissal because the Flynn interview was not "material" to an investigation, when I already held that it was material - based on the arguments DOJ made six months ago.

3. The DOJ is playing games by securing Flynn's agreement to withdraw his “motion to dismiss case for egregious government misconduct” on the same day the DOJ filed its motion to dismiss. They are not entitled to use dismissal as a way to cover up misconduct.

4. Even if the DOJ's misconduct with respect to Flynn was by the prior prosecutors, the current prosecutors effort to cover that up (rather than tell the court there was misconduct) is a separate form of misconduct that the Court must investigate.

The charges against Flynn are going to be dismissed eventually, but the suggestion that Judge Sullivan is out of moves is premature.

109 posted on 05/22/2020 7:18:37 AM PDT by Kaisersrsic
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To: Kaisersrsic

there is a guy on twitter making some pretty wild accusations that involve Cummings and this Judge and it goes into some detail

Something is off about this Judge. Dont know if these allegations have any merit so not posting them since it is..uhh.. twitter.

They are from May 15


110 posted on 05/22/2020 7:33:39 AM PDT by RummyChick ( Yeah, it's Daily Mail. So what.)
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To: Kaisersrsic
All four non reasons that you gave come down to the same thing:

United States v. Fokker Servs. B.V., 818 F.3d 733, 742 (D.C. Cir. 2016) is the controlling case in the DC circuit. The DC COA held: “[T]he `leave of court’ authority gives no power to a district court to deny a prosecutor's Rule 48(a) motion to dismiss charges based on a disagreement with the prosecution's exercise of charging authority.”

There is nothing else. Sullivan does not have the power to deny the motion to dismiss according to the DC Circuit itself. Let alone appoint his own prosecutor while being the judge at the same time. The 9th Circuit just got overturned 9 - 0 by the US Supreme Court for doing exactly the same thing.

The one playing games is Sullivan. He can twist and wiggle all he wants. This case is over. On or about the June 2nd.
Sullivan's merry little ride in politically motivated far left judicial activism will be brought to an abrupt and sudden end..

111 posted on 05/22/2020 12:46:19 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: gwjack

Was Flynn’s son in fact possibly involved in anything illegal? I can understand Flynn wishing to protect his son from any false prosecutions but if the son was doing anything shady or had some appearance of shady dealings then Flynn made himself vulnerable by trying to cover for his son.

I told my kids I would hire them lawyers but if they were doing anything illegal, they need to be accountable for what they do.

Flynn is a good man...it would be a shame to have lost him because of anything his son had done that Flynn was trying to cover for.

As it is they will probably try to get at Flynn’s son anyway...just out of spite.


112 posted on 05/24/2020 7:00:25 AM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: allendale

With “his” new lawyer, he will claim he needs more time than June 1, and bash Trump and Flynn in the same statement.


113 posted on 05/27/2020 10:11:58 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs
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To: gwjack

“A person can thumb their nose, but they can’t thumb it to a federal judge.”

Didn’t the Fraud do that whenever he pleased?


114 posted on 05/27/2020 10:14:13 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs
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To: Hostage

I’d put money against FraudCo’s Judgie Sullivan doing as ordered.


115 posted on 05/27/2020 10:16:27 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs
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To: WASCWatch

“You are overthinking this situation. The case is OVER. It will end on June 1 or 2, unless Sullivan signs the order dismissing the case before then.”

I disagree. Judgie’s handlers believe they have too much at stake, and are attempting to force Trump to pardon him, so Flynn can’t sue for compensation from and further expose our domestic enemies — at least until Nov. 4.

We’ll see soon.


116 posted on 05/27/2020 10:20:00 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs
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To: Joe Marine 76

OK, sounds good and all, but almost(?) every felony by the Fraud is WELL KNOWN to a LOT of Repblicans. Do you honestly know a Rat now who is not JUST AS DEVOTED to the Fraud as they were during his “scandal-free” administration?

Bilboe Bagpipes doesn’t seem to want to do anything to upset the Fraud’s handlers.

FraudCo is itching to go after Trump, his family and us after he leaves office.


117 posted on 05/27/2020 10:25:35 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs
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To: treetopsandroofs

Flynn will be able to sue the individuals and the government whether or not Trump pardons Flynn.

Just look at the language in the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals ORDER. It’s over by the end of next week; maybe a bit later if the COA wants Sullivan to personally explain his decision in front of the COA during oral arguments.

This case is over and anyone who understands what is going on knows it. The COA is not going to overrule its own precedent, nor go against the unanimous opinion of the SCOTUS from less than one month ago.


118 posted on 05/27/2020 11:23:33 AM PDT by WASCWatch
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To: treetopsandroofs

The COA can do it themselves of send it to another District Court who will, which will be the likely result.


119 posted on 05/27/2020 11:25:47 AM PDT by WASCWatch
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To: mdmathis6

That is not going to happen. The DOJ will not be going after Flynn’s son. Barr would not allow it because there is no evidence.


120 posted on 05/27/2020 11:27:25 AM PDT by WASCWatch
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