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All 3 of China’s Main Rivers Flooded, With Millions Living in Danger Zones
Epoch Times ^ | 07/22/2020 | Nicole Hao

Posted on 07/22/2020 8:33:33 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: PGR88
I'm actually surprised that during the period of the Great Leap Forward the Chinese didn't think about turning much of the Yangtze River plain into flood bypass zones that will become rich farmland most of the year. That's what they did with the Sutter and Yolo Bypasses west and north of Sacramento.
41 posted on 07/22/2020 9:27:16 AM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's Economic Cure)
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To: Bayard

Same thoughts here.


42 posted on 07/22/2020 9:29:28 AM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isnÂ’t common anymore.)
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To: RayChuang88

Dam will hold! Yankee propaganda no work! Chinese engineering better!!


43 posted on 07/22/2020 9:30:30 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Trust the plan of the 17th letter of the English alphabet!)
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To: RayChuang88

[The fear is that if the Three Gorges Dam collapses, we’re talking 510 million people upstream and downstream of the dam under threat. That’s nearly 1/3 of the population of China. ]


But the distances are massive. When the Ruhr and Eder valley dams featured in the Dam Busters movie were damaged, only 1,600 civilians were killed, and the distances were far shorter, with the extreme end of the resulting flood estimated at 50 miles from the dams. The distance from the Three Gorges dams to Wuhan, the first major city that might be affected, is ~200 miles. An excerpt:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Chastise#Bomb_damage_assessment
[The two direct mine hits on the Möhnesee dam resulted in a breach around 250 feet (76 metres) wide and 292 feet (89 metres) deep. The destroyed dam poured around 330 million tons of water into the western Ruhr region. A torrent of water around 32.5 feet (10 metres) high and travelling at around 15 mph (24 km/h) swept through the valleys of the Möhne and Ruhr rivers. A few mines were flooded; 11 small factories and 92 houses were destroyed and 114 factories and 971 houses were damaged. The floods washed away about 25 roads, railways and bridges as the flood waters spread for around 50 miles (80 km) from the source. Estimates show that before 15 May 1943 steel production on the Ruhr was 1 million tonnes; this dropped to a quarter of that level after the raid.

The Eder drains towards the east into the Fulda which runs into the Weser to the North Sea. The main purpose of the Edersee was then, as it is now, to act as a reservoir to keep the Weser and the Mittellandkanal navigable during the summer months. The wave from the breach was not strong enough to result in significant damage by the time it hit Kassel (approx. 35 km downstream).

The greatest impact on the Ruhr armaments production was the loss of hydroelectric power. Two power stations (producing 5,100 kilowatts) associated with the dam were destroyed and seven others were damaged. This resulted in a loss of electrical power in the factories and many households in the region for two weeks. In May 1943 coal production dropped by 400,000 tons which German sources attribute to the effects of the raid.[26]

According to an article by German historian Ralf Blank,[27] at least 1,650 people were killed: around 70 of these were in the Eder Valley, and at least 1,579 bodies were found along the Möhne and Ruhr rivers, with hundreds missing. 1,026 of the bodies found downriver of the Möhne Dam were foreign prisoners of war and forced labourers in different camps, mainly from the Soviet Union. Worst hit was the city of Neheim (now part of Neheim-Hüsten) at the confluence of the Möhne and Ruhr rivers, where over 800 people perished, among them at least 493 female forced labourers from the Soviet Union. (Some non-German sources erroneously cite an earlier total of 749 for all foreigners in all camps in the Möhne and Ruhr valleys as the casualty count at a camp just below the Eder Dam.[23]) ]


Having said that, though, the sheer scale of the Three Gorges dam is staggering. The volume of water its reservoir contains is 300x that of the the Dam Busters dams:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Gorges_Dam
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%B6hne_Reservoir

While the Chinese dam might seem like a monstrosity, its reservoir capacity is only slightly bigger than either Lake Powell or Lake Mead, the two artificial lakes formed by two of the biggest dams stateside.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Powell
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Mead

Of course, Lake Powell or Lake Mead are only about half full, whereas the water level at the Three Gorges Dam is at the brim, to the point they are doing controlled releases. And the American dams pen in river water that passes through literal deserts while moving downstream. Whereas the areas through which the Yangtze River passes may not have enough water, but they aren’t deserts. The high Yangtze adjacent water table means that dam breaks from the Three Gorges can’t just soak into the parched desert soil the way a Hoover Dam break would eventually do.


44 posted on 07/22/2020 9:31:56 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: Chickensoup

I understand your post on the human suffering and agree with your last line “God help them all”.

China is still going into the homes of Christians, ripping crosses and other religious artwork of their walls, and replacing with pictures of Mao and Xi, telling the Christians to pray to them instead of Jesus. They are also stopping welfare and food payments to these same Christians, telling them to starve unless they pray to Mao and Xi as gods.

What is happening now seems to me, to be like the builder of the Titanic stating “that even God could not sink this ship”. China might get exactly what they are asking for. Let’s see their gods Mao or Xi fix this.


45 posted on 07/22/2020 9:35:04 AM PDT by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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To: Tai_Chung
If the dam breaks, it will be blamed on the United States.

More specifically Trump, if it occurs before Nov. 3rd.
46 posted on 07/22/2020 9:39:14 AM PDT by Old Yeller (Systemic liberalism is the problem.)
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To: Army Air Corps
China’s Three Gorges Dam Could Collapse as experts.keep warning....Western experts said the steel bar welding of the dam didn’t meet with standards after investigating the 1998 flood..... sub-standard steel bar welding, serious cracks in substandard concrete, dam warping, concrete construction blocks not adequately secured to foundation bedrock.

Even the China CCP officially announced that the 3gorgesDam has suffered "displacement and deformation" within the last four days.


47 posted on 07/22/2020 9:41:05 AM PDT by caww
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To: caww
July 21, 2020..Hubei Province, Enshi:

Alert Issued after massive landslide!


48 posted on 07/22/2020 9:44:56 AM PDT by caww
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To: PGR88

[I visited the 3 Gorges area as the damn was being built. The local government/Party officials bragged about what a massive project it was, and how the new lake would be so large, it would change the climate of the entire area. Some European colleagues with me were shocked as if they witnessed a murder.]


The reservoir is about the same size as either Lake Mead or Lake Powell, the reservoirs for the Hoover Dam and the Glen Canyon Dam.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Gorges_Dam
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoover_Dam
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glen_Canyon_Dam

Canada’s Daniel Johnson Dam contains 4x the water volume of the the Three Gorges Dam.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel-Johnson_dam

Bottom line is that something of this scale seems to have been done before, elsewhere.


49 posted on 07/22/2020 9:46:07 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: caww
Incredible image of the 3GorgesDam floodgates opening


50 posted on 07/22/2020 9:48:21 AM PDT by caww
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To: SeekAndFind

If the dam breaks and kills 400 million people I will play the worlds smallest violin.

The chinese have ripped us off, steal from us and now kills our people. Eff em.

I hope the dam breaks bigley.

Those same chinese people have sympathy towards are stealing our tech from colleges and industrial base, planning and building weapons to kill US troops and will stab you in the back in a nano second.


51 posted on 07/22/2020 9:49:41 AM PDT by setter
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To: SeekAndFind

They admitted publicly that they are starting to see metal fatigue and deformations in parts of the dam.

It’s going to be horrific if it happens, and after the Wuhan Flu, 2019/2020 will be the ‘Chernobyl’ event year for China. I don’t think they’ll recover as they are currently constituted if this dam goes.


52 posted on 07/22/2020 9:53:59 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: setter

I agree. I have no personal beef with any individuals in China, but I consider our countries to be at war. The Chinese government is a subversive force for evil and I want it to collapse. The failure of the dam will bring needed change.


53 posted on 07/22/2020 9:54:13 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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To: SeekAndFind

consider one of the larger upstream ones going, it could be enough to take out the ones below it. cascade failire.


54 posted on 07/22/2020 9:54:51 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Zhang Fei

Yangtze River valley produces 25% of China’s food, 80% of APIs and chemicals for the rest of the world.

Flooding is going to have an impact on US... It’s critical we pay attention.


55 posted on 07/22/2020 9:56:46 AM PDT by caww
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To: caww

China’s living in intetesting times.


56 posted on 07/22/2020 9:58:46 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Joe Boucher

Are you talking about the 1959 north span of the Howard Frankland?

The company I retired from is a finalist to replace it.


57 posted on 07/22/2020 9:59:01 AM PDT by KC Burke (If all the world is a stage, I would like to request my lighting be adjusted.)
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To: SeekAndFind
All 3 of China’s Main Rivers Flooded, With Millions Living in Danger Zones

The "Trump Curse" strikes again?

58 posted on 07/22/2020 9:59:59 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month".)
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To: caww
China evacuates thousands after landslide rocks block river flow threatening more flooding


59 posted on 07/22/2020 10:02:48 AM PDT by caww
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission

I used to be able to see the ships above the levee from behind my house when I was a kid in New Orleans. Happened every spring.


60 posted on 07/22/2020 10:03:49 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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