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The birth of a militia: how an armed group polices Black Lives Matter protests
The Guardian US Edition ^ | July 27 2020 | unknown

Posted on 07/30/2020 4:17:14 PM PDT by euram

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To: eastexsteve

Very informative.


61 posted on 07/31/2020 11:42:58 AM PDT by miserare ( Respect for life--life of all kinds-- is the first principle of civilization.~~A. Schweitzer.)
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To: eastexsteve

Thanks for the information.

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62 posted on 07/31/2020 1:39:19 PM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: eastexsteve
The Texas State constitution and US Constitution. Both allow for militias. 431.010 clearly expresses hostility to independent local militias within municipalities, but it has no penalties, and does not apply to rural areas. (A key phrase here being " in a municipality of the state..") It's main intent seems to be to discourage local officials from calling up the militia.

The only statutes which local officials might invoke against a militia muster within a municipality would be those against exhibiting a firearm in a way that "alarms" the public. However, centuries of common law makes it clear that merely carrying firearms is not to be considered "alarming".


Yes, the only actual penalties I see here is one in the middle of inhibiting military services in the course of their duties, and one in the draft section, that seems to be aimed at the draft board. But, I'm sure they could find something to pin on people if they really wanted.

See below, there are rules for non-Govs calling up militia, but it is very limited. And yes, it doesn't say you can't do it in a rural setting, but that's not always an easily accessible area for some people. And if it is directed at cities, then why not say so explicitly? If private companies were allowed to form a 'security' group within their city, then why not word it to allow for that? I certainly believe anyone and their grandmother should be perfectly fine to get together and form a militia and train, but that doesn't seem to be the way the law is worded, and it is very vague as to what constitutes the difference between an illegal "militia" and your gun club meeting at the local range. If anything, the gov should be happy if your neighbors decide to get together and form a neighborhood watch. Ready for any disasters that may strike.

§ 431.112. CALLING OF FORCES BY OTHER OFFICIAL. If military aid is immediately and urgently necessary to prevent or suppress violence under Section 431.111(c) and it is impracticable to secure the aid in time by order of the governor, the district judge of the judicial district, the sheriff of the county, or the mayor of the municipality in which the disturbance occurs may call for aid on the commanding officer of the state military forces stationed in the judicial district, county, or municipality or an adjacent judicial district, county, or municipality. The officer must make the call in writing and shall immediately notify the governor of the action.
63 posted on 07/31/2020 5:29:04 PM PDT by Svartalfiar
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LambSlave claims that this is an anti-militia law > Missouri. MO. REV. STAT. s 574.070. Folks, it is hard to believe that this person has been on FR longer than a few days. LambSlave is promoting extreme disinformation. LambSlave what the hell is your point? Folks, read the law that LambSlave says prohibits patriot groups, while sheriffs all around the state are thanking them for their support.   574.070. Promoting civil disorder in the first degree — penalty. — 1. As used in this section, the following terms mean:   (1) "Civil disorder", any public disturbance involving acts of violence by assemblages of three or more persons, which causes an immediate danger of or results in damage or injury to the property or person of any other individual;   (2) "Explosive or incendiary device", includes:   (a) Dynamite and all other forms of high explosives;   (b) Any explosive bomb, grenade, missile, or similar device; and   (c) Any incendiary bomb or grenade, fire bomb, or similar device, including any device which consists of or includes a breakable container containing a flammable liquid or compound and a wick composed of any material which, when ignited, is capable of igniting such flammable liquid or compound, and can be carried or thrown by one individual acting alone;   (3) "Firearm", any weapon which is designed to or may readily be converted to expel any projectile by the action of an explosive, or the frame or receiver of any such weapon;   (4) "Law enforcement officer", any officer or employee of the United States, any state, any political subdivision of a state, or the District of Columbia. The term "law enforcement officer" shall specifically include, but shall not be limited to, members of the National Guard, as defined in Section 101(9) of Title 10, United States Code, and members of the organized militia of any state or territory of the United States, the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, or the District of Columbia, not included within the definition of National Guard as defined by Section 101(9) of Title 10, United States Code, and members of the Armed Forces of the United States.   2. A person commits the offense of promoting civil disorder if he or she teaches or demonstrates to any other person the use, application, or construction of any firearm, explosive, or incendiary device capable of causing injury or death to any person, knowing or intending that such firearm, explosive, or incendiary device be used in furtherance of a civil disorder.   3. The offense of promoting civil disorder is a class D felony.   4. Nothing contained in this section shall be construed to prohibit the training or teaching of the use of weapons for law enforcement purposes, hunting, recreation, competition, or other lawful uses and activities. ­­-------- (L. 1983 S.B. 72 § 3, A.L. 2014 S.B. 491) Effective 1-01-17
64 posted on 08/03/2020 6:51:12 AM PDT by old-ager (anti-new-ager)
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For whatever reason, LambSlave is posting harmful disinformation.


65 posted on 08/03/2020 6:53:31 AM PDT by old-ager (anti-new-ager)
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