Skip to comments.It's Too Late To Stop China's Military Catch-Up With America
Posted on 08/01/2020 10:57:46 AM PDT by RomanSoldier19Edited on 08/01/2020 3:39:56 PM PDT by Sidebar Moderator. [history]
Here's What You Need To Remember: The United States has become increasingly aggressive about slowing down or halting Chinas industrial espionage efforts. This has included indictments of PLA officers, broad condemnations of Chinese spying, and targeted reprisals against some Chinese firms. But given the extensive commercial contacts between China and the United States, stopping the flow of technology is virtually impossible.
As the Peoples Republic of China (PRC) emerged from war and revolution in 1949, it became apparent that the Chinese economy lacked the capacity to compete with the U.S. or the U.S.S.R. in the production of advanced military technology. Transfers from the Soviet Union helped remedy the gap in the 1950s, as did transfers from the United States and Europe in the 1970s and 1980s. Still, the Cultural Revolution stifled technology and scientific research, leaving the Chinese even farther behind.
Thus, China has long supplemented legitimate transfers and domestic innovation with industrial espionage. In short, the PRC has a well-established habit of pilfering weapons technology from Russia and the United States. As the years have gone by, Beijings spies have become ever more skillful and flexible in their approach. Here are five systems that the Chinese have stolen or copied, in whole or in part:
Why do you so much want bad things to happen? :)
Our military is quite ready, sorry to disappoint you. :)
Too late to stop their catch-up? Maybe but when they get here, we'll have leapt forward. All it takes is will.
Our own military disagrees with you. We have quite a lot of deficiencies caused by Endless Sandbox War followed by the Obamination.
Russia provided China with full digital blueprints, machine tools and process documents for their AL-31 engine.
It’s a reliable workhorse with great performance. Often exceeding 1,000 hrs of service before overhaul. Its MTBF is about 500hrs.
The Chinese version (WS-10) has been in development from those plans, and even engineering assistance on the ground, for nearly 10 years.
And it’s has to be overhauled every 10 hours and performs like a pig.
The Chinese systems are more akin to cartoon version of what they stole or were given/sold by others.
US military planners assume the worst, but they no there is no contest should the shooting start.
So do the Chinese.
Not always the case. In a recent documented issue, US military ships operating around Hong Kong were fed inaccurate GPS positions and were unable to localize the spoofing. Chinese ships appeared unaffected.
Er, the Chinese solved the problem with the WS-10 several years back.
China could not even domestically produce ball point pens until 2017.
“In a recent documented issue, US military ships operating around Hong Kong were fed inaccurate GPS positions and were unable to localize the spoofing.”
I don’t buy it.
Also reported here on FR, just search.
That seems to have mostly been that they couldn’t be bothered. After all, they make most of the world’s hard drives, a product that requires even finer machining quality and controls.
Well, this doesn’t make a whole lot of sense and presupposes we will remain stationary while they inexorably advance their military capability.
How on earth can the author have the first clue of what weapons systems we have (as yet announced) and what is in development? Short answer is he cannot.
China’s military and their technology in general has mostly based on what they can steal. With Trump now cracking down on these thefts and I’m sure the rest of the world doing the same I not only believe China’s attempt at parity with us will be slowed greatly but that we will pull further ahead than we are already.
“After all, they make most of the worlds hard drives, a product that requires even finer machining quality and controls.”
Do you believe they developed the technology to produce the hard drives? Or did they acquire it thru “other means”?
The WS-10H has been pulled from the J-15 due to lack of performance and reliability issues just last year.
Their carrier jets fly infrequently and with 1/2 designed payload.
Compare that to the F-18 engine the GE F414.
The WS-10 is based on the Russian AL31, which for Russian engines was considered reliable. It’s late 80s tech.
And the Chinese can’t even get that right.
They were initially given the technology by Western firms wanting cheap hard drives. Thing is, for the past decade or so there have been indigenous Chinese hard drives made on machines that weren’t provided by outside sources and from designs that didn’t originate in the West. They’re no worse than Seagate’s offerings in terms of quality and longevity.
China’s main problem isn’t that they *can’t* make quality product, it’s that mostly they don’t want to through greed and corruption. Western companies have found that if they pay for and force good QC, they can get good quality product - so it’s not a matter of ‘can’t’.
Stopping the flow of technology is virtually impossible if the US elects a president whose family is already on the take from China.
Um, the WS-10 is based on the Western CFM56...
Yep, sounds like Lindbergh and his feelings about Nazi Germany.
Not a single example of US Navy ships being deceived by GPS spoofing.
You do know the military encrypts their GPS right?
It can be jammed. It cannot be spoofed.
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