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CDC director agrees hospitals have monetary incentive to inflate COVID-19 data
Christian Post ^ | 08/07/2020 | By Blake Fussell

Posted on 08/07/2020 6:39:32 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Director Robert Redfield acknowledged during a House hearing Friday that COVID-19 data could be inflated because hospitals receive a monetary gain by reporting COVID-19 cases.

Republican Rep. Blaine Luetkemeyer of Missouri questioned Redfield during a House Oversight and Reform subcommittee hearing on coronavirus containment. He asked about the “perverse incentive” for hospitals to classify deaths as being coronavirus related when the virus didn’t cause the death.

Luetkemeyer voiced concern about how an automobile accident-related death could be recorded as a COVID-related death. In this scenario, the death was recorded as COVID-related because the virus was in the victim’s system, even if the car accident was the major factor.

“As long as you have COVID in your system you get to claim it as a COVID death, which means you get more money as attending physician, hospital, whatever,” Luetkemeyer said during the hearing. “Would you like to comment on that, about the perverse incentive? Is there an effort to try and do something different.”

Redfield responded by telling the congressman, “I think you’re correct in that and we’ve seen this in other disease processes too.”

“In the HIV epidemic, somebody may have a heart attack but also have HIV,” Redfield explained. “The hospital would prefer the DRG [death report] for HIV because there’s greater reimbursement. So I do think there is some reality to that.”

Redfield said that death reporting comes down to what a physician thinks and how he or she classifies a death in a death certificate. He also said the National Center for Health Statistics reviews “all those death certificates.”

“I think it is less operable in the cause of death although I won’t say there are not some cases,” he said. “I do think, though, when it comes to hospital reimbursement issues for individuals that get discharged, there could be some play in that for sure.”

Luetkemeyer previously posed a similar question to Adm. Brett Giroir, Department of Health and Human Services assistant secretary for health, in a July 2 hearing. However, the discussion was halted due to time constraints.

In the July 2 hearing, the legislator also asked about the discrepancy in COVID-19 reporting that saw an automobile death recorded as a COVID-19 death.

“The CDC that gathers the statistics is completely dependent on the reports of the local coroners,” Giroir responded. “Yes, there appear to be some misincentives to over-code.”

On Friday, Luetkemeyer referenced a Colorado study that found COVID-19 reporting data to be inflated.

Earlier this year, the Colorado Health Department reported that nearly a quarter of the coronavirus-related deaths in state statistics did not have the virus listed on their death certificates. The discrepancy caused the state to change the way it reports COVID-19 deaths.

“[Giroir] acknowledges that the statistics he’s getting from the states are inflated,” Luetkemeyer said Friday. “We found that the governor of Colorado, who was a Democrat, actually did research on this and found he had to get rid of 12% of the deaths that were recorded in the state.”

While Luetkemeyer, Redfield and Polis suggest that data shows inaccurately high numbers of COVID deaths, others have come to an opposite conclusion.

A July study by Yale University concluded that there could be substantially more deaths from COVID-19 than reported.

The conclusion came after researchers compared the number of excess U.S. deaths from any cause with the reported number of weekly COVID-19 deaths from March 1 through May 30 using National Center for Health Statistics data.

The numbers were then compared with deaths from the same period in previous years.

“Our analyses suggest that the official tally of deaths due to Covid-19 represent a substantial undercount of the true burden,” Dan Weinberger, an epidemiologist at Yale School of Public Health and a lead author of the study, told CNBC.

Friday’s House panel discussion was titled “The Urgent Need For A National Plan To Contain The Coronavirus.” Subcommittee Chairman Jim Clyburn, D-S.C, discussed hospitals in his remarks and said experts predict 150,000 more Americans could die of the virus at the current rate.

Clyburn contended that hospitals could soon “have to choose who to treat and who to turn home to die.”

President Donald Trump, however, said in a press briefing last Wednesday that the country has made proactive partnerships to “build the greatest medical arsenal in history.”

“We’ve contracted with companies … to produce over 200,000 ventilators by the end of this year, nearly seven times more than we normally would,” the president said. “We’ve contracted … to increase U.S. production of N95 masks.”

The reason for the switch was to obtain more complete and transparent data.

Despite this reasoning, the new database has experienced delays and discrepancies when it comes to the reporting of available hospital beds and ventilators when the exact number for each hospital is crucial, according to NPR.

“If the information is not accurate, it could cost time and lives," Lisa M. Lee, former chief science officer for public health surveillance at CDC, told NPR. "If all the ICU beds are taken up, emergency medical personnel need to take [new patients] to the next town over or to the next county."

Some hospitals have followed the same protocol of sending data for 15 years, then abruptly changed the process on July 10.

Michael Caputo, HHS assistant secretary for public affairs, told NPR that the CDC could not keep up with the old system of reporting data.

Redfield told reporters in mid-July that the CDC agreed to remove the CDC’s National Healthcare Safety Network from the collection process in order to speed up the reporting process.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cdc; covid19

1 posted on 08/07/2020 6:39:32 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

and an incentive to prevent CURES of SARS_CoV-2
and an incentive to lie about prevalence
and an incentive to profit from those lies.


2 posted on 08/07/2020 6:41:32 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("when a crime is unpunished, the world is unbalanced")
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To: SeekAndFind

and an incentive to murder the CEO of any
company that makes HCQ

and an incentive to imprison whistleblowers
or just Arkancide them for GateXi, PeloXi, Xi, and FauXi.


3 posted on 08/07/2020 6:42:45 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("when a crime is unpunished, the world is unbalanced")
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To: SeekAndFind

“It’s all about money, ain’t a damn thing funny.”

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=youtube+the+message&t=osx&iax=videos&ia=videos&iai=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DzrsPhMGN1f4


4 posted on 08/07/2020 6:46:50 PM PDT by PGalt ( Past Peak Civilization)
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To: Diogenesis

Dio BUMP! Right on.


5 posted on 08/07/2020 6:48:14 PM PDT by PGalt ( Past Peak Civilization)
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To: SeekAndFind

Bkmrk


6 posted on 08/07/2020 6:52:00 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear
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To: SeekAndFind; All

Some of us pointed this out months ago. And THIS is why the numbers are BS.


7 posted on 08/07/2020 7:16:31 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn’t common anymore.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Disclaimer: I may be indulging in wishful thinking, and reading way too much into things. On the other hand, maybe not.

It seems like just a few weeks ago, “dissenting” medical studies, articles disputing the “official” Covid-19 numbers, skepticism of the mask cult, and criticisms of Dr. Kevorkian and Nurse Ratchet were practically unheard-of. Now, such articles are everywhere.

Am I the only one getting a vibe of drip — drip — drip? By that, I mean that even granite can be worn away by dripping water over time. Something is starting to “feel” different somehow.


8 posted on 08/07/2020 7:39:02 PM PDT by AFB-XYZ
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To: SeekAndFind

I don’t think it’s the hospitals inflating then numbers.

What I suspect is occurring is that a number testing centers do not actually have the capacity to handle all the tests they receive. In those cases to continue to receive tests (and testing fees), they mark any tests unable to be completed as Positive (provisionally).

This would also explain some stories where clinics are submitting tests with no actual materials and receiving positive responses.


9 posted on 08/07/2020 8:54:10 PM PDT by Brellium ("Thou shalt not shilly shally!" Aron Nimzowitsch)
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To: SeekAndFind

Below is the Zelenko protocol along with an editorial regarding some substitutes for those in prison states:

SUCCESSFUL THERAPY AGAINST COVID-19 VIRUS from New York State:
Dr. Vladimir (Zev) Zelenko
Board Certified Family Practitioner
501 Rt 208, Monroe, NY 10950
845-238-0000
March 23, 2020
To all medical professionals around the world:
My name is Dr. Zev Zelenko and I practice medicine in Monroe, NY. For the last 16 years, I have cared for approximately 75% of the adult population of Kiryas Joel, which is a very close knit community of approximately 35,000 people in which the infection spread rapidly and unchecked prior to the imposition of social distancing.
As of today my team has tested approximately 200 people from this community for Covid-19, and 65% of the results have been positive. If extrapolated to the entire community, that means more than 20,000 people are infected at the present time. Of this group, I estimate that there are 1500 patients who are in the high-risk category (i.e. >60, immunocompromised, comorbidities, etc).
Given the urgency of the situation, I developed the following treatment protocol in the pre-hospital setting and have seen only positive results:
1. Any patient with shortness of breath regardless of age is treated.
2. Any patient in the high-risk category even with just mild symptoms is treated.
3. Young, healthy and low risk patients even with symptoms are not treated (unless their circumstances change and they fall into category 1 or 2).
My out-patient treatment regimen is as follows:
1. Hydroxychloroquine 200mg twice a day for 5 days
2. Azithromycin 500mg once a day for 5 days
3. Zinc sulfate 220mg once a day for 5 days
The rationale for my treatment plan is as follows. I combined the data available from China and South Korea with the recent study published from France (sites available on request). We know that hydroxychloroquine helps Zinc enter the cell. We know that Zinc slows viral replication within the cell. Regarding the use of azithromycin, I postulate it prevents secondary bacterial infections. These three drugs are well known and usually well tolerated, hence the risk to the patient is low.
Since last Thursday, my team has treated approximately 350 patients in Kiryas Joel and another 150 patients in other areas of New York with the above regimen.
Of this group and the information provided to me by affiliated medical teams, we have had ZERO deaths, ZERO hospitalizations, and ZERO intubations. In addition, I have not heard of any negative side effects other than approximately 10% of patients with temporary nausea and diarrhea.
In sum, my urgent recommendation is to initiate treatment in the outpatient setting as soon as possible in accordance with the above. Based on my direct experience, it prevents acute respiratory distress syndrome (ARDS), prevents the need for hospitalization and saves lives.
With much respect,
Dr. Zev Zelenko
cc: President Donald J. Trump; Mr. Mark Meadows, Chief of Staff
Video at Link
https://matzav.com/watch-kiryas-yoel-dr-zev-zelenko-to-trump-im-seeing-success-with-your-approved-drug/?fbclid=IwAR0gVHAW9kWF-JLRHjzQx9bSFx6jlRgTn9_PpAmaiykXhsVqTE7wJrddS4g

8 posted on 3/24/2020, 5:02:30 PM by Candor7 ((Obama Fascism)http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2009/05/barack_obam_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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EDITORIAL, not a medical professional:
Most likely, we are all going to get this, or have a loved one who does, or we’ve already had it.

Because the Hydroxychloroquine (quinine derivative) is such an old, well-known and tolerated drug, (used world-wide for malaria without prescription for over 70 years) and is generic, which means it is quite cheap and will not make huge profits, it is being denigrated and withheld as much as possible.

Try to get your doctor to prescribe it, and then a pharmacy to fill it.
It is commonly prescribed long-term for autoimmune diseases such as rheumatiod arthritis and lupus.

For those of us who can’t get this Hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) for whatever reason, there are substitutes. So keep this information, look it up, try it out when you or your loved one gets sick. .

Here are some substitutes:

1. Hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) (Quinine derivative) 200mg twice a day for 5 days
SCHWEPPS Tonic Water contains 80mg per liter of QUININE. 3 liters of the stuff will have about 240mg of Quinine. 5 liters will give you the same daily amount as above (200mg twice day = 400mg)
They tell you to push fluids when sick. So, SCHWEPPS Tonic water. Try the 3 liters. Get zinc in cells.

2. Azithromycin (Zpak) 500mg once a day for 5 days
Can’t get Zpak? If you take enough vitamin C (10-20 grams per day, spaced out about a gram (1000 mg ) per hour, it acts like an antibiotic. Maybe dissolve in the tonic, but don’t take pills on an empty stomach. If your stool gets soft, skip three hours and dial it back to a gram every other hour. (But you will absorb more vitamin c than you ever thought you could.)

3. Zinc sulfate 220mg once a day for 5 days. (MUST TAKE THE ZINC - IT’S CRITICAL)
Zinc piccolinate, zinc glycinate, zinc gluconate supplements, all seem to work just fine. Check locally, order Amazon, or Puritans Pride www.puritan.com stock #2000 will work, or LifeExtension Foundation#01561 or #01961 www.lef.org. Advise the zinc 220mg dose for 5 days, not more.


10 posted on 08/07/2020 9:05:13 PM PDT by Norski
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To: All
i did not see this coming, but i have a feeling that others may have seen this coming.


11 posted on 08/13/2020 5:09:40 AM PDT by SteveH
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