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The Electoral Vote Roadmap
09-07-2020 | OrangeHoof

Posted on 09/08/2020 8:30:43 PM PDT by OrangeHoof

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To: Political Junkie Too

I see what you’re saying. Part of Trump’s success was to win by such a wide margin that more than one state had to be flipped to change the outcome.

Such a naked attempt to overturn the results of a presidential election would be certain political suicide to a Whitmer, Wolf or Evers if it were tried. It’s possible the Democrats won’t care but it would be the flashpoint, I’m afraid, to a REAL civil war if it were tried. You could have not just rioting in the streets but possibly assassinations as well. And I don’t say that lightly.


21 posted on 09/09/2020 12:45:57 AM PDT by OrangeHoof (Let pro athletes police our streets since they think they can do it better.)
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To: OrangeHoof
The thing is, the rioters and assassins would support Whitmer or other Democrats who tried this.

It's the cheated Republicans we're talking about, and they're not known for radical violent reactions to Democrat scorched earth tactics. They still have to get up early to go to work in the morning (or they used to) to earn their wages to pay the mortgage feed their children.

-PJ

22 posted on 09/09/2020 1:21:27 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (Freedom of the press is the People's right to publish, not CNN's right to the 1st question.)
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To: olivia3boys

Reopen school as a barometer?

Disagree. MA and RI are reopening. Trump has zero chance in those states.


23 posted on 09/09/2020 3:34:05 AM PDT by reviled downesdad (Some of the lost will never believe the Truth.)
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To: deport

Tillis in 2014 only received 49% of the votes against “bug eyes” hagan.


24 posted on 09/09/2020 3:50:52 AM PDT by personalaccts (Is George W going to protect the border?)
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To: OrangeHoof
You were doing well until the ol’ “Yankee Transplants” line. MOST people move into areas with similar views not opposing views. Why don’t you go back 20, 30 years and see who held Senate and Congressional seats and get back to the group.

25 posted on 09/09/2020 5:22:14 AM PDT by j.argese (/s tags: If you have a mind unnecessary. If you're a cretin it really doesn't matter, does it?)
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To: j.argese

Based on the craven disregard for caring how one wins, I think we best keep the Senate and grab the house to navigate the dims shananagins in this elector college voting.


26 posted on 09/09/2020 5:25:38 AM PDT by RobyOnekanobee
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To: RobyOnekanobee
In the past, let’s round up to 30 years, the GOP has had 2 strategies for winning:
1. The Contract With America
2. Make America Great Again, which in all honesty was a Donald J. Trump strategy, not a GOP strategy.
The Democrats, on the other hand, has been recruiting the “Chowhound Military”, faces of their demographic strategy, fraud strategy, general violence strategy.
Until the GOP decides to think long-term, while acting short-term, it won’t be demographics that will win in the long term.
27 posted on 09/09/2020 6:02:33 AM PDT by j.argese (/s tags: If you have a mind unnecessary. If you're a cretin it really doesn't matter, does it?)
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To: OrangeHoof
* Florida - always close and hard fought, Trump and Republicans do have some advantages here. His adoptive home state should carry him as it did in 2016 but it may be a long night.

More likely, a long couple of months. Florida may well fail to report their electors by the December deadline. That almost happened in 2000 (the insanity was brought to an end by SCOTUS) and is much closer to happening this year.

28 posted on 09/09/2020 6:49:26 AM PDT by centurion316
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To: reviled downesdad

Yes, MA and RI value education and children and rank those higher than their fear of the virus, like Europe. I’ve read the closer to the Canadian border, the better the education is in US States.

Also the teachers unions in those states must be weaker than those in CA.

I suppose MA and RI have Dem governors but just weren’t that interested in tyrannical lockdowns. They have some sense. . .


29 posted on 09/09/2020 7:12:00 AM PDT by olivia3boys
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I don’t see it being called until Florida and Ohio go Trump. I look for a mid-night call possibly from FNC, depending on how far off the rails they continue to go. Even in a landslide the media is not going to go there until they absolutely have to.


30 posted on 09/09/2020 11:12:59 AM PDT by sarge83
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To: j.argese
MOST people move into areas with similar views not opposing views.

As someone who has spent most of my life in Texas and Colorado, I disagree. People move where the jobs are. In the last recession, Texas absorbed a lot of Northerners who openly bitched about the heat, openly bitched about the South, openly bitched about the culture, thought they were SO superior to the local yokels, etc. Wanna guess what party they probably voted for? Colorado is flooded with Californians fleeing high taxes and government overreach. Then they began voting out the Republicans and putting in Democrats who just legislated the very things California was doing. Democrats are political termites. They invade a state and keep gnawing away at it until it collapses and then they move out to another state they can destroy.

31 posted on 09/09/2020 11:17:17 AM PDT by OrangeHoof (Let pro athletes police our streets since they think they can do it better.)
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To: sarge83

I think there’s a good chance the majority of states are called on election night. The tv networks are all about scooping the competition. Once they or AP calls a state, the others quickly jump in line.

On the other hand, I did see in 2016 where many of the networks had Trump at the edge of 270 but needed just one more state except that one more state was one the other networks had called. On this channel, they were still unable to call Michigan. On that channel, they were still unable to call Pennsylvania. On this network, they were waiting North Carolina. Most of them wouldn’t call Georgia until hours after it was obvious Trump had won.

But they want their “who won” headline the night of the election and they’ll be under great pressure to declare a winner. This whole “let’s wait a few weeks until all mail-in votes come in” is going to be a hard sell to the networks and also the viewers. Stay up all night only to be told there’s no winner? All it takes is one mainstream source to break ranks and the rest will follow.


32 posted on 09/09/2020 11:23:34 AM PDT by OrangeHoof (Let pro athletes police our streets since they think they can do it better.)
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To: Political Junkie Too

That’s interesting. If a state withholds electors and they aren’t seated when the college convenes, how are the electoral votes the seated electors counted? Is it the majority vote of all electoral seats in the college? Or of all electoral votes cast in the college?


33 posted on 09/09/2020 7:13:00 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: BradyLS
The latter. It's a majority of appointed electors.

-PJ

34 posted on 09/09/2020 7:15:37 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (Freedom of the press is the People's right to publish, not CNN's right to the 1st question.)
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To: Political Junkie Too

That sounds good to me! :-D


35 posted on 09/09/2020 7:18:17 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: OrangeHoof

I can confirm that in Texas in 2016 there were tons of TRUMP yard signs. This year, I’m seeing quite a few as well, but there are also BIDEN signs mixed in. These are in the new housing neighborhoods that are springing up here like weeds. There will be one BIDEN sign for every 3 TRUMP signs as a quick eyeball average. They are transplants coming for the jobs but they are bringing their liberal votes with them.


36 posted on 09/10/2020 11:43:13 AM PDT by Rona Badger (Heeds the calling wind.)
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To: OrangeHoof

Jobs are an important factor BUT as a relocater myself, from Yankee to Dixie, if I didn’t feel comfortable, I wouldn’t have stayed AND I know many people who move back after a few years because they just don’t like culture change.


37 posted on 09/12/2020 4:04:02 AM PDT by j.argese (/s tags: If you have a mind unnecessary. If you're a cretin it really doesn't matter, does it?)
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To: OrangeHoof
Let's say it's Pennsylvania with 20 EV. The total changes from 538 EVs to 518 EVs and makes the new threshold for election 260 votes rather than 270.
You need to read this reply as well...
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I'm beginning to see a pattern.

38 posted on 11/11/2020 6:43:41 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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