Posted on 09/21/2020 7:20:49 PM PDT by logician2u
The Antiplanner argues they're all wrong, for different reasons.
Fire is something we need to learn to live with. Safeguard your home and property, but don't expect a single solution that will stop forests from burning.
It's a natural occurrence, no matter what we do to prevent it.
Thanks
Not directly related to the fires, but check out “The Chilling Stars” by Svensmark and Calder. It’s a very convincing review of how the ball of fusing helium ~1AU from us is more responsible for global climate than anything we could even begin to comprehend.
You are very welcome.
Interesting. I wonder what that could be . .
It's fireworks and molotov cocktails! Arson, in other words!
Did I mention, piss poor management of the forests?!!!
I wish President Trump would just state the obvious in the debate. 10,000 years ago much of this country was under two miles of ice. The climate changed, it is always changing. The ice melted. We prospered. It’s natural. We adapt. How stupid is this discussion?
Actually climate change could be a bad thing. Global COOLING would be a real crises.
well I gotta say I’ve had two days now with the heat on here in W. Pa......and it’s way early doing that.
I am not willing to accept living with this level of fire (and smoke).
Trees grow back. Forests should be managed like any other crop. Active management means both grazing, logging, prescribed burns and fire suppression especially in the in the urban interface regions. Logging and grazing offset management costs while reducing fuel load.
Managing the environment for our own benefit is what humans do and the mushy headed Gaia worshippers who think natural is better are idjits.
I say this because for the next ten hours - the fall equinox is at 9:31 AM EDT - it is still officially summer. Stick that in your furnace and smoke it.
I am wondering if the lack of air travel and the lack of CO2 and H2O in the atmosphere is causing this early cold snap? Plus the really wet summer. Probably not but....
I’m just above Allegany county... they’re usually a few degrees warmer than we are as we pick up weather off Erie, ...but dang it never expected to put heat on this early.
The stupid in these ideas is the way this guy tries to put people in groups and label them.
That way, nobody has to do any thinking. It’s all a matter of reacting to labels.
..”Managing the environment for our own benefit is what humans do”......
Then the LORD God took the man and put him in the garden of Eden ‘to tend and keep it’ (Manage it)......that directive hasn’t changed.
The answer is remove the fuel lying on the forest floor.
Otherwise known as dead, fallen down trees.
Thinning is part of the solution. And clear cutting.
And another thing. Why should we “have to live with fire” now? We didn’t “have to live with fire” in the past.
It’s propaganda.
Deceptiveness is the lowest IQ plan any person can undertake.
There is a tendency, especially among the scientific community, to want to play God (as if there wasn't a Real God) and change naturally-occurring events to benefit "mankind" or "society" or some other abstraction.
I recall a TV ad for margarine in years past that ended with ". . you can't fool Mother Nature."
Humorous but largely true.
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