Posted on 11/09/2020 12:34:18 PM PST by ConservativeStLouisGuy
Ah - thanks for the clarification Scholar.
I thought it was 26-23 as Pennsylvania is a split delegation - I read that somewhere.
This is where it gets good. The House/Congress votes on who the President will be. It has nothing to do with what party that has power. Every state gets one vote and 30 states are held by Republicans / 19 by Democrats.
That's not how it works. States choose their Electors. If for some reason a certain state's vote is tossed due to uncorrectable errors or fraud, then it is up to the state legislatures that choose their Electors.
Only if no candidate gets a majority in the Electoral College will the House then vote on a candidate for President, and the Senate vote on a candidate for Vice President.
You can't skip the Electoral College altogether.
THIS IS EXCEEDINGLY UNLIKELY IN A TWO MAN RACE.
In 1948 and 1968, there were three candidates who got substantial electoral votes - Strom Thurmond got 39 EVs in 1948 and George Wallace got 46 in 1968.
In both cases, the winning candidate got over 300 - Truman had 303 in 1948 and Nixon had 301 in 1968.
If Humphrey had won California in 1968, or if Dewey had won Texas and Oklahoma in 1948, the House would have elected the President, and in both cases the result would have been changed - the Republican House in 1948 would have elected Dewey and the Democratic House in 1968 would have elected Humphrey.
In the present day, a small number of determined electors could go rogue in a close election, say 271-268 like in 2000, and by introducing a third candidate throw it to the House.
The only other scenario where the House would elect the President in a two-man race would be a 269-269 tie, but the pressure on one elector to switch to "end our Constitutional crisis" would be enormous.
Notice how the current definition of "Constitutional Crisis" is as a result of someone following the Constitution as written?
For a minute there - given the unusual way contingent elections work - I thought you guys might end up with a Trump/Harris administration.
Absolute nonsense.
IIRC each state legislature instructs it’s congressional delegation how to vote (someone correct me if I’m wrong).
I’m not sure the Supremes can order it to the House. They could declare it fraudulent in one or several states, I believe at that point it’s up to the state legislatures who could rely on that opinion on fraud, and vote for electors without regard to the fraudulent election. Of the states questioned, I believe only Nevada doesn’t have a Republican legislature, so things would lean Trump’s way. Obviously the Dems could appeal, but in the face of a determination of fraud, they’d lose in the same court. I think the only way it would get to the House would be a lack of a majority in the electoral college, which mathematically cold happen and would also favor Trump. Given what’s at state, can Trump present enough evidence the election results were fraudulent? Perhaps, since they’re looking at state elections, 2 or 3 frauds is all it would take.
That is wrong. But it's not going to get that far anyway.
“And if dems take the Senate then Harris will be Trump’s Veep.“
I don’t think so. I believe it would happen before January 20th, and therefore be governed by the current majority.
And remember; the alleged fraud and irregularities appear to have affected certain Senate and house races as well - which will need to be remedied.
So, perhaps we will see the Republicans improving their Senate majority after all.
The Court does not have that kind of authority.
Yes, a possibility, but 70 millions] Americans need to be ready to hold if it happens.
When do the House and Senate get sworn in?
Yes, but most State Legislatures have chosen to use the popular vote as their method of appointing Electors, and have written that choice into law.
It looks like Congress may not have 223 democrats. If they manage to maintain their majority it could be by 6 or less. GOP has made gains and is leading in 20 of 24 races not yet called. Thats why the dems are pissed with Nancy, She may get dumped as Speaker regardless of who wins...all GOP and a handful of dems
Senate numbers which are going to be affected by the voting results in several contested states like MI, GA ....hopefully not NC
I can’t believe even a pos like Romney would go against his party here, esp for such a ravaged unsuitable man.
While these AGs argue on election law...not actual fraud...if ballots are stopped at 8pm in PA Trump should win PA and will set a precedent for other states where election officials did not follow their state law as written
yup....and the governors have no veto power over the measure.
AU72 wrote:
“Rudy G just tweeted:
“The Trump administration has MAJOR DIRT incoming
Biden celebrated prematurely!!!!”
“
Thank you, Rudy!!!
"The President of the Senate shall, in the Presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the Certificates, and the Votes (electors votes from state legislatures) shall then be counted. The Person having the greatest Number of Votes shall be the President, if such Number be a Majority of the whole Number of Electors appointed; and if there be more than one who have such Majority, and have an equal Number of Votes, then the House of Representatives shall immediately chuse by Ballot one of them for President; "
New Congress is sworn in Jan.3. However the 2 Senators from Georgia will have the terms expire that day with the runoff scheduled, I believe, Jan.4.
Let it be!
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