Los Angeles ambulance crews told not to transport patients who stand little chance of survival

CNN ^ | January 5, 2021 | Alexandra Meeks

[alexander_busek]

The difference is the 20 minutes spent in the field trying to resuscitate.

That's not what the excerpt says:

If there are no signs of breathing or a pulse, EMS will continue to perform resuscitation for at least 20 minutes, the EMS memo said. If the patient is stabilized after the period of resuscitation, the patient would then be transported to a hospital. If the patient is declared dead at the scene or if [after the aforementioned 20 minutes of continued resuscitation] no pulse can be restored, paramedics will not no longer transport the body to the hospital.

I agree that the excerpt needs clarification - but your interpretation is not warranted, I feel.

Regards,

[mass55th]

Sounds like the order Cuomo's health commissioner Dr. Howard Zucker gave back in April. He ordered that EMT's not resuscitate anyone without a pulse during the "pandemic." When the NY Post reported on the order, it was rescinded the next day.

New York scraps do-not-resuscitate order during coronavirus pandemic

[MarMema]

I don’t care what you think. I know what I am talking about from over 40 years in the medical field. They come in on the ambulance to the ED with CPR in progress. In most places they label it as a code 3/something or just call it in as CPR in progress.
No EMS staff sit in the field and do CPR for 20 minutes.
Why would they delay transport to a more skilled setting?

[MarMema]

Until you see the numbers of people who can no longer work having survived covid.

[Harpotoo]

I still want to know where all the bodies are if in LA someone is dying ever 3 minutes. A few days back I must have read a msm oopsie. It said the the ICUs where at 100% based on staff availability.

[Drago]

“No room at the Inn” apparently...COVID-19 has it full up:

http://file.lacounty.gov/SDSInter/dhs/1100458_Directive_6revTransportofTraumaticandNontraumaticCardiacArrest.pdf

[Harpotoo]

Here in NC no mention of the flu this year outside of please get a shot. The flu is dead long live the ccpFLU!

[alexander_busek]

I don’t care what you think. I know what I am talking about from over 40 years in the medical field. They come in on the ambulance to the ED with CPR in progress. In most places they label it as a code 3/something or just call it in as CPR in progress. No EMS staff sit in the field and do CPR for 20 minutes. Why would they delay transport to a more skilled setting?

I have no fight with you.

The excerpt is ambiguously worded. I am only arguing that it needs to be formulated more clearly.

Regards,

[MarMema]

The national guard has been called in to help. They had 60 refrigerated trucks on standby a few weeks ago.

[MarMema]

Remember that covid is racist. Those Hispanic brown skins in LA are probably not helpful.
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/expert-answers/coronavirus-infection-by-race/faq-20488802

[Drago]

Refrigerated/frozen shipping containers too (scroll down for a pix):

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-12-12/covid-19-deaths-increased-danger-coroner-office

[noiseman]

Sure would be nice if California morons hadn’t let the illegals bankrupt the hospitals, driving many of them to close their emergency rooms.

Ah, what am I saying? When you’re having a heart attack, it’s far more important to have a warm fuzzy because you turned your country over to invaders than it is to receive treatment and survive. Silly me.

[MarMema]

Those are the most sad. Single folk sent home to quarantine found dead a few days later on their sofa.
I always remember this one.
Just dxed and only a few days into her quarantine. It must have been a blood clot. Back then it was still a new disease. Lisa Ewald, RIP.

[MarMema]

Or if they had gotten the vaccines out more quickly....duh.

[Glide Plane]

Just because you want something to be true doesn’t make it true. But you are correct that it is not the common cold. The common cold is real.

[Glide Plane]

Apparently the flu died from COVID. /s

[jacknhoo]

This is Marxist euthanasia.

[Glide Plane]

Six percent death rate? I think not. The death rate for COVID is 0.03%. The death rate for the flu is 0.01%. Get your facts straight and crawl out from under your bed.

[Flick Lives]

I’m sorry, but this virus is *not* the common cold. Pretending that it doesn’t really exist makes you, and this site, sound like crackpots.

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You might read down deep into the article where the fearporn of this story falls apart...

“Due to the shortage of beds, the county EMS said patients whose hearts have stopped, despite efforts of resuscitation, should no longer be transported to hospitals.”

[Glide Plane]

“Were dead patients previously transported to the hospital.”

I don’t know about other places, but here in Los Angeles, yes. To wit, in Sept. 2019, I came across a heroin addict on the street. Tried giving him CPR but he was long since dead. The fire dept came, put him on a gurnee and transported him to the hospital so a doctor could confirm the death.