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Los Angeles ambulance crews told not to transport patients who stand little chance of survival
CNN ^ | January 5, 2021 | Alexandra Meeks

Posted on 01/04/2021 10:22:42 PM PST by MinorityRepublican

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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Which is the sole reason I see cuomo sticking infected patients in nursing homes.


81 posted on 01/05/2021 6:31:11 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith.....)
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To: GreyHoundSailor
That's easy....if one dies of the flu it is recorded as Covid....biggest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people. We are constantly told by Democrat governors and mayors how dangerous it is to go outside of our homes while they are feasting in foreign countries!!!
82 posted on 01/05/2021 6:41:10 AM PST by ontap
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To: MinorityRepublican

So I was watching Salty Cracker on YouTube the other day and he and a friend drove to look at three separate hospitals in the area. They all have vivid triage set up. He reported the hospitals were practically deserted.


83 posted on 01/05/2021 7:22:38 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: FoxInSocks

You’re pretty funny. It amazes me that you would even think that an arrest in the field would have the same access to treatments as one in the ED.


84 posted on 01/05/2021 7:33:24 AM PST by MarMema
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To: MarMema

See the ACLS guidelines.

What will they do in an ED to treat cardiac arrest that won’t be done prehospital?


85 posted on 01/05/2021 11:04:18 AM PST by FoxInSocks ("Hope is not a course of action." -- M. O'Neal, USMC)
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To: MinorityRepublican

You are on a death list here in Los Angeles now.

Supposedly due to the shortage of bed because of the chinese virus.
Plus no oxygen either after all these months of a democratic party lockdown of free people that they did not prepare.

You can bet they will expand the requirement and any patient will be treated like they do in socialist countries. How much money can we make for our bonus if we have people on a death list.

LA Tells Ambulances to Stop Taking Patients ‘With Little Chance of Survival’ to Hospital
https://thenationalpulse.com/breaking/la-ambulances/


86 posted on 01/05/2021 2:57:57 PM PST by minnesota_bound (I need more money. )
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To: minnesota_bound

The NHS will do what they have always done and kill the patient so they can make higher bonus money for themselves.

Google: Liverpool Care Pathway, daily mail
125,000+ people per year killed.

Hospitals bribed to put patients on pathway to death: Cash incentive for NHS trusts that meet targets on Liverpool Care Pathway
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2223286/Hospitals-bribed-patients-pathway-death-Cash-incentive-NHS-trusts-meet-targets-Liverpool-Care-Pathway.html


87 posted on 01/05/2021 3:07:46 PM PST by minnesota_bound (I need more money. )
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To: alexander_busek

Ems tried to resuscitate my husband, then transported him to the hospital where he was declared dead after further attempts.


88 posted on 01/05/2021 7:32:56 PM PST by gracie1 (Look, just because you have to tolerate something doesn’t mean you have to approve of it. )
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To: FoxInSocks

What happens in the ER is way beyond ACLS. Medics start ACLS to get the patient a better outcome when they get to the ED. In the ED they can do rapid sequence intubation/LMA/cricothyroidotomy/video laryngoscopy, chest tubes, thoracostomy, CV cath placement, pericardiocentesis, thoracotomy, TC pacing, anything open chest/cardiac massage, the last try of solumedrol, etc...
in New York they cover pts with ice.
Also probably not a cardiac Cath lab available in the field, so if you do get a turnaround you can act on a blockage.


89 posted on 01/05/2021 8:25:02 PM PST by MarMema
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To: MarMema

In terms of cardiac arrest, an ER simply is not “way beyond ACLS.” What truly has been shown to work is quality CPR and early defibrillation.

I think you’re underestimating the current prehospital EMS scope of practice. Paramedics can have RSI, video laryngoscopy, ultrasound, LMA and other supraglottic airways, cricothyrotomy, needle decompression, defibrillation, pacing, cardioversion, etc. Thoracostomy and cardiac massage are unlikely to be indicated in the situations we’re discussing here. There’s not a cath lab in the ED either.


90 posted on 01/05/2021 11:18:28 PM PST by FoxInSocks ("Hope is not a course of action." -- M. O'Neal, USMC)
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To: FoxInSocks

Well duh. No kidding. But in medium to larger hospitals the Cath lab is a heck of a lot closer than it is to the field.

I have a reading suggestion for you.

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/15819230-erasing-death

The first chapter alone should help you understand the difference between the field and the ED.
Also not every county has a paramedic available.
And some have none.


91 posted on 01/06/2021 12:00:11 AM PST by MarMema
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