Dem Impeachment Managers Praise Mike Pence

https://www.aol.com/news/democratic-impeachment-manager-lavishes-praise-210057735.html ^ | 2-10-2021 | David Knowles

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“He’s not “cognizant” of any such things.”

Road apples. Even we are cognizant of shockingly vast election fraud, and the VP would have access to more information than we do. **Of course** he was cognizant of the commission of felonies.

“then the proper venue for addressing those irregularities was in the states that sent them.”

Sure, the states had a responsibility, but when they failed in that responsibility, it didn’t just vaporize. It didn’t just suddenly become acceptable to commit fraud. That responsibility travelled upward to the people who outranked those state authorities, and at one point it rested with the Vice President. He, too, failed. Like the urine-stained coward he is, he decided not to report the worst crime in the history of the United States.

“This was the whole point of Sen. Cotton’s formal letter explaining why he would not vote to support any objections over the electoral votes from other states.”

Buncombe. He was merely trying to slide out from under the rightful opprobrium that his cowardice has earned him.

“If there were “serious felonies in the compilation and presentation” of certified electoral votes from Pennsylvania (for example), then there is a whole laundry list of people in official capacities to formally represent the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania in rendering an objection to those electoral votes.”

So what? So the frag what? Every one of those “people in official capacities” **failed** to perform their duties. Does that mean that the crimes just disappear? Does that mean that the duty to report and prosecute those crimes just turns to mist and blows away? Is that our system? All you have to do to get away with a crime is intimidate the people who have a duty to arrest you?

“That list could probably be longer.”

Without being in any way relevant.

“Sen. Cotton’s point was that none of these individuals or governing bodies filed any objection to PA’s electoral votes.”

Another way of saying that Sen. Cotton had only a bogus excuse, and no valid point whatsoever.

Are you even listening to yourself? Or are you a fifth columnist?

The president is the president of the entire United States. Every state is affected by every other state. No state or group of states has the right to corrupt the election process. If, say, Rhode Island reported 86 million votes for Traitor Joe, and for that reason their electoral votes will go to him, the other states don’t have to stand by and let that happen. Even if all the other officials from all the other states are willing to let that happen, whether due to dishonesty or cowardice, the last man standing **still**, even at that point *still* has a duty to report the crime and demand an investigation.

Even if he knows the leftwads will hire gangsters to kill him, even if he knows they will burn him at the stake, even if he faces whatever horrible fate the imagination can conjure, NO MATTER WHAT he **still** has a duty to report the crime. That is his inescapable duty, no matter what.

That duty devolved upon the despicable coward Pence, and he failed. He had a duty to the Constitution, to the US, to the American people, and to the human race, and he spat on it. He let the demonrats trample the honor of the United States in the mud.

Now, back to you…

Your argument boils down to this: Terrible crimes were perpetrated upon the American people, crimes that have unimaginable consequences for every American, every town, every state, and may result in the destruction of the United States. The criminals of the states in which these crimes were committed failed to report themselves for their crimes. Therefore, no other American may charge them with these crimes, nor may they try to prevent or reverse the terrible harm they are producing. Since the criminals themselves have not reported their own crimes, they must be allowed to get away with them.

And yes, that is exactly what you are saying.

“Cotton knew damn well that if a Senator from Arkansas can contest the electoral votes from another state in the absence of any formal objection from that state, then presidential elections are meaningless because the country would face the prospect of having Democrats from New York and California objecting to electoral votes from states like Wyoming and Oklahoma that Republicans win by huge margins.”

Utter nonsense. Just mind-numbingly stupid. I can’t believe that I have to explain this.

According to you, to prevent liars from making false accusations, we must not allow honorable men to make and investigate well-founded accusations.

An objection does not in and of itself change the outcome of an election. An objection is merely a call for an investigation. What reason would anyone have for opposing the confirmation of the legitimacy of an election? Just this: when you investigate election fraud, the demonrats will always be guilty, every time, and the Republicans will never be guilty, any of the time. Or so close to never as to make no difference.

I don’t know whether you have a problem in the brain-housing group, or whether you are a fifth columnist here to spread hate and discontent. Either way, you’d have better luck if the ordure you spread at least seemed plausible on the first reading.

[DouglasKC]

I had Pence pegged from day one. He puts on a conservative act to get conservative votes but when the rubber hits the road he’s just the good cop in a good cop / bad cop routine.

[Alberta's Child]

Please document all the cases of ...

A. "shockingly vast election fraud"
B. "serious felonies"
C. "terrible crimes"

... and explain to us how these altered the results of the 2020 presidential election.

I don't want guesses, estimates, or allegations, either. I want you to document the tens of thousands of cases of election fraud that rendered the December 2020 Electoral College vote null and void.

The president is the president of the entire United States. Every state is affected by every other state. No state or group of states has the right to corrupt the election process. If, say, Rhode Island reported 86 million votes for Traitor Joe, and for that reason their electoral votes will go to him, the other states don’t have to stand by and let that happen.

I hate to break this to you, but under the U.S. Constitution the states are sovereign entities ... and they themselves have the authority to determine how their presidential electors are appointed.

If the legislature of Rhode Island wants to pass a law that says any Democrat running for President gets an 87-million vote "head start" in the popular vote, then there's nothing anyone from any other state can do about it. The U.S. Constitution is very clear about the authority of the state legislatures in these matters.

Even if all the other officials from all the other states are willing to let that happen, whether due to dishonesty or cowardice, the last man standing **still**, even at that point *still* has a duty to report the crime and demand an investigation.

Great -- let's investigate. That will take at least two years. Who is the President of the United States in the meantime -- Nancy Pelosi?

Here's a typical scenario that probably happened hundreds of thousands of times in the 2020 election:

1. Grandma Smith lives in a nursing home somewhere in New Jersey.

2. She's still registered to vote in Philadelphia, PA.

3. Her grandson is an Antifa loser, and he uses her name and her last PA address to request a mail-in ballot.

4. He fills out her ballot, votes for Joe Biden, and mails it in using the pre-printed ballot envelope.

5. The ballot is received a week before Election Day and processed as a legitimate ballot.

6. On Election Day, the ballot is removed from the envelope and counted.

Here's the thing, dude ... Even if an investigator learned after Election Day that this process was completely fraudulent and was able to document every step in the process of fraudulently requesting and completing the mail-in ballot, there still wouldn't be any way to compute the impact on the election results because the ballot cannot be traced back to the voter once it is removed from the official envelope and counted. The outer envelope is used only to verify that the ballot was received from a legally registered voter. But our voting process is supposed to be secret, so the counting process is set up to ensure that no ballot can be traced back to the envelope that was used to mail it.

If Pennsylvania decided to run a mail-in voting scheme that was riddled with opportunities for people to cast fraudulent ballots without being traced, then that's something that should have been addressed BEFORE Election Day. You can thank the Republican legislature in Pennsylvania for that state's stupid voting procedures. They adopted them by statute back in 2019 -- which means it had nothing to do with the COVID measures used in other states for the 2020 election.

[M. Thatcher]

anyone who thinks he had the authority to do anything other than preside over a Congressional formality is delusional.

If you were remotely correct, Pence's political career would not be over, dead, done.

[JouleZ]

Here’s your proof. Enjoy.

https://michaeljlindell.com/

[Alberta's Child]

His political career is over for reasons that have nothing to do with the January 6th election certification.

Mike Pence knows better than anyone else that he'll never be elected President of the United States. And he knew that five years ago -- before he was ever selected to run as Trump's VP.

He simply doesn't have the charisma and personality to attract a following like Trump ... and on top of that, most Americans are adamantly opposed to having morally upright people in positions of authority. We prefer TV characters like Trump and defective mutants like Biden.

[gleeaikin]

Which states met that 1000 sworn affidavit criteria?

[gleeaikin]

“that there will be no counting of votes until these crimes are investigated, and it is made clear what votes may legitimately be counted.”

Isn’t that what those dozens of court cases that were almost all decided against the President were doing? Investigating any crimes against an honest vote? And many were decided by Judges appointed by Trump.

[StAnDeliver]

Let me draw both of you a picture from 2016. Maybe that would make it easier to see what you are asking for, unconstitutionally:

"Mr. McGovern has objected to the Alabama slate due to the "confirmed and illegal activities engaged by the government of Russia". Mr. Raskin has objected to Florida’s slate, due to that state's prohibition against dual office holders. Ms. Jayapal has objected to the Georgia slate's electoral certification. Ms. Lee has objected to the Michigan slate again due to Russian interference. Mr. Grijalva has objected to the North Carolina slate due to violations of the Voting Rights Act. I find all of these in due order and suspend each of these state's slates until further investigation by the DOJ and the FBI, and order each state involved to prepare an alternate slate of electors. The Inauguration can wait. We are adjourned."

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“Isn’t that what those dozens of court cases that were almost all decided against the President were doing? Investigating any crimes against an honest vote?”

Where did you get such a notion as that?

To the best of my knowledge, *none* of the court cases actually went to trial. *None* of the court cases was investigated in *any* way, and *none* was tried on the merits.

Every one of them was dismissed on specious grounds that should have seen the judges removed from the bench.

No legitimate attempt to investigate the fraud was ever made.

[dsc]

So your point is that because the left can lie, no one should be allowed to tell the truth about the left.

Further, reporting domestic enemies of the Constitution for committing crimes is in no way “unconstitutional.”

There are a lot of fifth columnist trolls on FR just now.

[dsc]

“Which states met that 1000 sworn affidavit criteria?”

Where did that come from? Over the past seven decades I have never heard of any such requirement.

By the way, “criteria” is a plural. The word you wanted is “criterion.”

[BEJ]

Right on!

[StAnDeliver]

"So your point is that because the left can lie, no one should be allowed to tell the truth about the left."

No, my point is the one on your head. Promoting unconstitutionalism is not what has sustained FreeRepublic for decades.

"Further, reporting domestic enemies of the Constitution for committing crimes is in no way “unconstitutional.”

Further, that is what Biden just did in post #89.

"There are a lot of fifth columnist trolls on FR just now."

I won't bother being as vague as you. You're a loser. You're a stiff-necked nobody who hates being beat in a public forum for your ignorance.

[dsc]

“So your point is that because the left can lie, no one should be allowed to tell the truth about the left.”
>>No

What do you mean, “no?” That’s exactly what you said. That’s the only point you have.

“Promoting unconstitutionalism”

You keep telling that lie, again and again. It will never become true, no matter how many times you repeat it.

“Further, that is what Biden just did in post #89.”

Utter nonsense. Everything Biden is represented as saying in that post was a lie. Again, your only point is that because leftwads lie, no one is allowed to tell the truth.

“who hates being beat in a public forum”

Have you been drinking? You have yet to say a single thing that was true, much less intelligent. All you’ve done is repeat bogus reasons that we’re not allowed to catch the left in their crimes.

As an aside, “Stand and deliver” was a catchphrase used by robbers and thieves to demand that their victims hand over the booty. An appropriate name for one who wants the left to get away with the steal.

[NetAddicted]

Rd later.

[StAnDeliver]

What you don't like, is that if anyone had been so foolish as to give your wishcasting any credence, that Biden could have ruled every single challenged elector slate out of order in 2016.

"Whatever happens kid, ignore the Constitution,
it's for losers. Don't be a loser, kid. And if
someone knows more than you do on a public forum
stay with it, get the last word in no matter how
goddamn much of a fool you look like."

[dsc]

“Biden could have ruled every single challenged elector slate out of order in 2016.”

I don’t believe that you are stupid enough to believe that, so I’m going to call it a lie born of malice.

I think this is more than enough time to waste on you and your fifth-columnist ranting.

By the way, that boy is now a United States Marine.

[RedStateRocker]

And plenty here will be pointing out the alternative. There was mucho praise for McCain when he ran against Obama.

[RedStateRocker]

The second most annoying voice on radio after Michael Savage.