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Large, Red, Itchy or Painful Skin Reactions to Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine in Some Patients
https://scitechdaily.com ^ | MARCH 3, 2021 | By MASSACHUSETTS GENERAL HOSPITAL

Posted on 03/04/2021 12:41:20 PM PST by Red Badger

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To: RC one; Jan_Sobieski
Nobody is being forced to get this vaccine.

Only in that people are not being rounded up and dragged to vaccine centers. Yet.

Yet they are trying to force people to get it through coercion. You want to travel, papers please. Show you your vaccine certificate.

The government is now treating our rights as privileges which they are going to deny unless we buckle under.

We’ll be labeled as domestic terrorists for being “anti-vaxxers”.

What a bunch of crap.

61 posted on 03/04/2021 4:56:30 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Stentor

Preach it.


62 posted on 03/04/2021 4:57:58 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: steve86; null and void; SeekAndFind; Red Badger; Mom MD; metmom; RC one; SecAmndmt; PGalt; ...

You speak of mRNA or otherwise, and possibility of pathogenic priming. I heard elsewhere that of the 4 vaccines currently being discussed Pfizer and moderna are one type and J & J and Astra Zenica were developed from a different mechanism. Which of these was mRNA and what was the other type and can you tell us more about this priming issue and what issue(s) the other type might have. Staying mostly in isolation I have been using my time to sort through old clippings and filing or discarding. In 2014 Pfizer tried very hard to buy Astra Zeneca but was strongly rejected. Is this why A-Z is having a hard time getting into the US? Earlier (2005?) Phizer was the first drug company to take advantage of a legal change regarding getting drugs from Canada. AARP reported this was hurting the elderly. I am inclined to reject Pfizer on ethical grounds, and in addition figure there is more chance for human error in handling vaccine that needs super freezing.

I plan to wait a while longer before getting a shot to see how J & J works out and whether A-Z becomes available. I think Vitamin C may help with this rash response. I already take 3 to 7 grams a day for respiratory allergy to house dust, mold, cigarette smoke, ragweed, etc. Am prepared to take more for a bad reaction. I have been taking a number of supplements for years and have added zinc and Viramin D3 since Dr. Zelenko came to my attention. I also have Quercetin in reserve since HCQ is hard to get in case Covid hits. In past six months have had vaccine shots for flu, and Shingles (2) and no reaction except tender shoulder and desire to take it easy for a day or two. My partner also had shots, but with more reaction. He only takes the vitamin packets I prepare for him every 2 or 3 days. He hates to swallow them.


63 posted on 03/04/2021 5:08:34 PM PST by gleeaikin
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To: metmom

I’ve been stung hundreds, if not, thousands of times during my youth as a beekeeper. Bees have a barbed stinger where as wasps do not. Any first aid you get is best. Sounds like you’re allergic and you want to keep some benadryl handy and might consider getting an epi pen just in case.


64 posted on 03/04/2021 5:28:03 PM PST by Keyhopper (Indians had bad immigration laws)
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To: gleeaikin
This is sorta how the mRNA vaccines work:

That's Pfizer and Moderna

I haven't heard if there is an off-switch to tell your immune system to stop making erzatz Death Stars.

Ever see Mickey Mouse as The Sorcerer's Apprentice?...

65 posted on 03/04/2021 6:13:07 PM PST by null and void (The media decides what news you can see and NOT SEE. But don't you dare call 'em Not-Sees)
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To: Keyhopper

All set with both those.

Those Epi-Pens are danged expensive though.


66 posted on 03/04/2021 6:45:51 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: null and void; steve86; Mom MD; Jane Long; SeekAndFind; saintgermaine; All

Nice graphic explanation for Pfizer and moderna. I hope Steve86 can explain about J & J and A-Z This looks a little like a cytokine storm graphic, I wonder to what degree appropriate supplements protect from both extreme reactions.


67 posted on 03/04/2021 6:52:19 PM PST by gleeaikin
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To: RC one

This virus is real and it is deadly


Deadly???

Seriously?

It’s also 98++% survivable.

And, for the TINY amount who do contract it? Early and PROVEN, effective treatments are available.

No need to risk your FUTURE health....that NOT EVEN THE DRUG COMPANIES MAKING THESE EXPERIMENTAL ‘VAX’S’ can guarantee against.

Stop your fear mongering.


68 posted on 03/04/2021 7:11:56 PM PST by Jane Long (America, Bless God....blessed be the Nation 🙏🏻🇺🇸)
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To: metmom

You can thank our commander in thief


69 posted on 03/04/2021 7:43:43 PM PST by Keyhopper (Indians had bad immigration laws)
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To: RC one

“This virus is real and it is deadly”

All viruses are real.

No virus is deadly, although some are tougher than others.

Conventional medicine owns most of the cv19 dead, or at least the ones who sought medical care and were offered NOTHING other than Tylenol or Ibuprofen. You people should be ashamed, but you won’t be. I have to keep reminding myself that most GP’s are not particularly smart. Most are simply well practiced at looking up the “standard of care” for various symptoms, filling their prescription pads, meeting with (runway model) female Pharma reps, and administering vaccines. As to health and wellness, as can be seen from these FR cv19 threads, conventional MDs have just about zero to offer in that regard. Anyone who wants a proper DX would be well-advised to go to a wellness professional, a chiropractor or even a D.O. Wellness MDs in particular offer anti-viral protocols which have decades of successful history backing them up.

These vaccines have not been properly tested, and they are investigational through the end of 2023. There is NO way to ascertain one way or the other whether post vaccine events are related to the vaccine or not, which is exactly why these cv19 vaccines should NEVER have been approved for use outside of limited long term double blind (saline) placebo tests with willing human participants.

It is a free country and we are allowed to disbelieve your sources and believe our sources, just as you are allowed to believe your sources and disbelieve ours. Doctors are NOT subject matter experts, and do not qualify as such in a Court of law for very good reason.


70 posted on 03/04/2021 7:58:19 PM PST by SecAmndmt (Aim small, miss small)
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To: gleeaikin

Don’t get the shot in the first place, then you don’t have to worry about extreme reactions. Take QURCETIN + ZINC + D 3 + C + MELATONINE + B COMPLEX

This will not protect you from catching it, but should you get it will help you to shake it off fairly easy and quickly, and once you are done with it you will have developed a pretty good natural protection.

The catch is to have this stuff in your system BEFORE you think you may have the virus, besides it is very beneficial for the human body to begin with if you get this crazy virus or not. Then there is IVERMECTION which may not be as easy to get without a prescription, but with a little effort you can get around it. And there is also BHT which will kill lipid covered viruses, with the Covid19 virus being one of them.

https://youtu.be/wtazbRr2VtA


71 posted on 03/04/2021 9:25:59 PM PST by saintgermaine (THE TIME TRAVELLER )
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To: VanShuyten

Just one more reason why I wouldn’t touch any of these quick developed vaccines with a flagpole. Besides there are other ways and means to make you more resistant against this virus and shake it off more quickly should you get it. I just may if I had to, consider J&J vaccine which appears to be a TRUE vaccine

MEDICAL SHOCKER: Scientists at Sloan Kettering discover mRNA inactivates tumor-suppressing proteins, meaning it can promote cancer
Tuesday, March 02, 2021 by: S.D. Wells
Tags: badhealth, covid cancer, Dangerous Medicine, dirty vaccines, DNA, DNA mrna, mRNA, mrna dangers, mRNA vaccines, RNA, vaccine wars, vaccines dirty

There’s a secret layer of information in your cells called messenger RNA, that’s located between DNA and proteins, that serves as a critical link. Now, in a medical shocker to the whole world of vaccine philosophy, scientists at Sloan Kettering found that mRNA itself carries cancer CAUSING changes – changes that genetic tests don’t even analyze, flying completely under the radar of oncologists across the globe.

So now, it’s time for independent laboratories that are not vaccine manufacturers (or hired by them) to run diagnostic testing on the Covid vaccine series and find out if these are cancer-driving inoculations that, once the series is complete, will cause cancer tumors in the vaccinated masses who have all rushed out to get the jab out of fear and propaganda influence. Welcome to the world of experimental and dirty vaccines known as mRNA “technology.”
Previously unknown cancer driving messengers are hiding in RNA, not DNA

This mind-blowing discovery should be published on every medical news site, newspaper, television news broadcast and on the CDC website, but unless you are reading this article and use DuckDuckGo as your search engine, you probably wouldn’t ever see it. That’s because Google is in on the fix, with Big Pharma and the VIC – the vaccine industrial complex. So here’s a more in-depth explanation of what we’re looking at, for real, regarding mRNA and vaccines.

The information carrying molecule, messenger RNA, can instruct human cells ultimately in the same way as cancer drivers, playing a major role in causing cancer to thrive while inactivating natural tumor-suppressing proteins the human body creates to save you from cancer. This is the complete opposite of what the CDC and the vaccine manufactures are telling everyone right now about the Covid vaccines, and this is based on clinical research by molecular biologists at the Sloan Kettering Institute.

Even sequencing the DNA in cancer cells doesn’t reveal these changes, that’s how sneaky the vaccines are. It’s like a Trojan horse that tells your cells to allow these changes to be made, as if they were safe, but they’re not. All assumptions being made about mRNA being ‘safe’ right now have been completely turned 180 degrees with this research. Consider this very carefully if you have not yet been vaccinated with mRNA technology, and you may want to ‘lawyer-up’ if you already got the jabs.

After your Covid vaccination, RNA is transported out of your cell’s nucleus, and will no longer function properly as a cancer tumor suppressor

Bill Gates and the Vaccine Industrial Complex are very sinister, as we all know, but to create vaccines that truncate (disable by cutting short) cancer tumor suppressors, and destroy the human body’s ability to protect against cancer, well, that’s just complete insanity. Truncated tumor-suppressor proteins are similar to the DNA mutations that cause cancer cells to mutate and multiply uncontrollably. Will America see cancer cases skyrocket over the next few years due to Covid vaccines? Only time will tell, but right now, science is revealing that it’s likely. Pay close attention.

Therefore, anyone who is scared to death of the Covid vaccines is pro-science rather than anti-science, because the science shows the mRNA technology is very dangerous, especially concerning proteins that fuel cancer tumors. Let’s say that again: Science shows mRNA technology can fuel cancer tumor growth.

Substantial amount of people with blood cancer have the SAME inactivation of tumor-suppressor genes at the mRNA level Scientists also discovered that a substantial amount of people with blood cancer, a.k.a. chronic lymphocytic leukemia (CLL), have the same exact inactivation of tumor-suppressor genes at the mRNA level. In fact, the mRNA changes they detected could possibly account for the missing DNA mutations, and that spells out bad news for everyone who thinks the Covid vaccine series is “safe and effective.” It’s effective alright, at suppressing anti-cancer proteins, one might conclude.

Even if just half (partial truncation) mRNA changes in human cells take place, it’s enough to “completely override the function of the normal versions that are present,” according to the Sloan Kettering team of scientists. These changes can also apply to 100 different genes at the same time, so the changes can add up quickly and cause horrific health repercussions. Of course, mainstream media will dismiss any connections made by these discoveries, but they’re paid to regurgitate pharma talk, so that’s not surprising at all.
It is important to note that mRNA changes, according to researchers, are not limited to blood cancer, but have been linked to acute lymphatic cancer and breast cancer. Could this mean we’re looking at a new population control mechanism hidden in messenger RNA?

About 20,000 people in the US develop “CLL” chronic lympthocytic leukemia each year. How many will quietly begin developing it now, and then have it suddenly “show up” five years from now? Symptoms include fatigue, enlarged lymph nodes, and night sweats. Did you get mRNA vaccinated and experience those symptoms already? Are those symptoms on the warning label – the vaccine insert? Did you read them?
There’s only one “treatment” offered right now for CLL by the Pharma Industrial Complex, and that’s stem cell bone marrow transplantation. Oh, but it’s only recommended if your CLL is “likely” to advance. Do your mRNA vaccines now qualify you as “likely” to advance with CLL?

Tune your internet dial to Vaccines.news for updates on human challenge trials for people interested in suppressing genes that fight cancer.


72 posted on 03/04/2021 9:33:42 PM PST by saintgermaine (THE TIME TRAVELLER )
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To: saintgermaine; All

I am already pretty much following your line 1 advice. I had already been thinking I would rather take A-Z or J&J vaccine, after a few months when I can see developments in others.

I continue to check out the alternative struggle’s updates at this site with many links, some very recent, some censored from Youtube, Google and elsewhere. Pass it on to others.

https://faculty.utrgv.edu/eleftherios.gkioulekas/zelenko/index.html


73 posted on 03/04/2021 10:25:00 PM PST by gleeaikin
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To: SecAmndmt
No virus is deadly, although some are tougher than others.

That's where I stopped reading.

74 posted on 03/05/2021 2:23:13 AM PST by RC one (When a bunch of commies start telling you that you don't need an AR15, you really need an AR15)
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To: Jane Long
It’s also 98++% survivable.

But when it's as contagious as Covid is, you end up talking about 2% of your total population.

Many times I have stood in a room and listened to a doctor tell a Covid patient that he's going to have to put them to sleep so he can intubate them and there's a chance that they might not wake up again.

I'm working with someone right now whose husband was one of those people and he wasn't even 50 years old. He ended up intubated over Covid.

You aren't a doctor. You aren't a nurse. You're just some chick who reads things on the internet. Google doctors like you are a running joke to people like us. We do not give a F about ANYTHING that you read on the internet.

75 posted on 03/05/2021 2:31:38 AM PST by RC one (When a bunch of commies start telling you that you don't need an AR15, you really need an AR15)
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To: metmom

You can thank Biden for that.


76 posted on 03/05/2021 2:50:02 AM PST by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is it?)
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To: null and void

I like the mRNA explanation.
I don’t know how the cells “remember” how to manufacture antibodies against a previously encountered infectious agent.


77 posted on 03/05/2021 2:56:04 AM PST by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is it?)
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To: null and void

I found the answer to how the body remembers prior infections.

When an unfamiliar antigen is detected in the body, it can take up to two weeks before plasma cells can generate enough antibodies to counteract the specific antigen. Once the infection is under control, antibody production decreases and a small sample of antibodies remain in circulation. If this particular antigen should appear again, the antibody response will be much quicker and more forceful.


78 posted on 03/05/2021 3:00:09 AM PST by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is it?)
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To: RC one
Ooh....you got triggered, I see.

I understand, though. The truth hurts.

You aren't a doctor. You aren't a nurse. You're just some chick who reads things on the internet. Google doctors like you are a running joke to people like us. We do not give a F about ANYTHING that you read on the internet.

Yet, you took the time to post your vulgar reply. And, what are you? What makes YOU so special? Just another chick (? - don't know/don't care) posting on an Internet forum, who happens to jab people with an experimental agent. No thanks, to anything YOU have to say. (Notice I didn't even have to use a bad word, to say that. Even covered up bad words are frowned upon, here, by the boss....fyi.)

So, you happen to know a Covid patient who's now intubated. That is terrible and my heart goes out to these people. Was EARLY, proven treatment given to this person on the onset of their symptoms? (No need to reply to me about this, as I don't care for your profane replies, going forward.)

We know TWO people, personally, who are now struggling since taking their second experimental, UNPROVEN, mNRA jab.

One was a perfectly healthy, self-sufficient mom/grandma of 70, who now suddenly has dementia and they have had to move her from her home into a full time/assisted care facility.

The other is an elderly male who now is having severe lung issues that they are trying to determine is going on.

Again....please do not reply, as I am done with your profane manner.

79 posted on 03/05/2021 6:59:35 AM PST by Jane Long (America, Bless God....blessed be the Nation 🙏🏻🇺🇸)
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To: Jane Long

I didn’t even read it Jane.


80 posted on 03/05/2021 7:27:43 AM PST by RC one (When a bunch of commies start telling you that you don't need an AR15, you really need an AR15)
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