Posted on 04/03/2021 6:13:42 PM PDT by nickcarraway
Well here we go again...
The autopsy report listed cardiac arrest as cause of death, probably caused by the drugs in his system. Not asphyxiation or strangulation.
He had almost 4 times the lethal amount of Fentanyl in his blood, plus heroin and methamphetamine. That is a chemical cocktail known as a speedball, same thing that caused John Belushi to OD. In Belushi’s case it was just heroin and meth, Fentanyl didn’t exist yet.
Watch the video a little closer. The cop had his knee at the base of the neck (in back, not on the throat) at about the area where the label of a t-shirt is. It’s not hard to see how that works, lie on your stomach with a large rubber band around your wrists, behind your back, and a 4 year old can easily hold you down with one hand no matter how much you struggle. I can hold you down with 2 fingers. It’s almost impossible to choke a person in that position, using the knee in that location. Maybe if you parked a truck there...
The autopsy report also stated that they found no bruising or trauma to the neck area, which means the cop didn’t use enough pressure to leave a bruise. The hyoid bone was not broken, it’s almost always broken in cases of strangulation or asphyxiation. Any method you use to choke a person WILL leave a bruise.
Fentanyl can cause a condition known as “wooden chest”. The sedative action of the drug affects the muscles of the chest, reducing their functionality, making them feel as if they are stiff and inflexible, hence the term wooden chest. This could be why he comlplained that he was unable to breathe, but just the fact that he could talk indicates he could breathe.
I saw a man choke right beside me one night, on a piece of meat. He had to use hand signals to get me to understand, because he literally could not speak, he was choking. In fairness, I suspected it already and was asking questions, all he had to do was nod. I got him standing and used the Heinlich maneuver, he was still vertical and breathing last time I saw him. If you can’t breathe, you can’t tell anyone you can’t breathe, you’ll be frantically using hand gestures.
George Floyd had a long criminal record, dating back to at least age 18, he was 47. Drug possession and sales, assault, armed assault, and I think armed robbery. He left Houston after getting out of prison on an armed assault charge. I think he did 2 years on that one. That was not his only time in prison.
He was also working with a group known as “Young Risk Takers”, (YRT) associated with a porn website, acting as “George the Landlord”. They look for the youngest girls they can find and have them do any kind of porn scene they can dream up with no condoms or other protection, hence the name YRT.
George Floyd killed himself, almost 4 times the lethal dose of Fentanyl, he was a dead man walking before the cops got there. They had an ambulance on the way, and made a 2nd call to get it to hurry up when they realized he was going downhill fast. I’m not sure if they had Narcan, or if it would have made any difference with that much Fentanyl in his system.
Bottom line, just like Michael Brown, Eric Garner and Freddie Gray, if he had not been resisting arrest, this story would have never hit the news. But in Floyd’s case, he would have been found dead from an OD the next morning if the cops had not been called. Brown, Garner and Gray would be alive right now, in jail maybe, but alive, if they had simply let the cops put the cuffs on. Floyd would not have made it to the CNN news, but would most likely be another OD statistic anyway, he had way too much Fentanyl to last the night.
But he was not killed by a cop, and this trial shouldn’t even be happening. But they have to have their pound of flesh...
So unless we have training like Popo we can’t, comment give me a break
Training fail
Only an idiot insists they are right when they do not know what they are talking about.
The media has been pushing a narrative that is not fact or evidence supported and that continually leaves out the known facts of this case.
If one takes the time to read the medical examiners report, and not listen to the medias version of it, then you would be getting into the facts.
Floyd overdosed on a massive dose of phytanoyl and killed himself.
There was no indication, no marks nor any other evidence of asphyxiation. Then we hear that it was the blockage of blood to the brain. There were no marks on his neck that indicate that either. The brain has two major sources of blood, one on the right side of the neck and the mirrored duplicate source on the left.
Look at the videos. Even if one side is blocked, which is not proven on the videos, there is absolutely nothing blocking or impacting the other side.
Floyd was moving his head around and talking right up until the end of his life. Floyd was not strongly pinned to the ground, he had blood supply to his brain and he was breathing. He was in respiratory distress but that was caused by his self ingested lethal dose of illegal narcoticizes.
When a body infused with, orally or in any manner, to a lethal dose of fentanyl the narcotic stops that bodies heart, cardiac arrest.
Floyd died of cardiac arrest.
Woops, those damn facts again.
Oh so when a suspect is handcuffed behind their back and claiming they can’t breath ....pleading as it were.....and slowly dies....of cardiac arrest as you claim.....
It’s all the more reason for the police officer to keep his knee pressed on the heart attack suffering mans neck rather render aid or have EMTs called
Same neck on same man who is pleading he can’t breath for ten minutes
Really.
Sometimes this forum is behind the pale excusing cops.....yes I remember Waco one and two just for starters
Let me guess....you or your family member is or was one ?
Well I personally take historically 25-40,000 a year out of my revenue drawer and give to police and their families as discounts....unsolicited
And I have a poster here I can ping who will verify this....I also try to give cops benefit of the doubt but on this one even though it’s been hijacked by race hustlers I still find the circumstances of his death in custody troubling
Blind police worship....is as bad for a republic as a propaganda media is
Happy Easter
Then you don’t live in reality. We have a career violent druggie criminal vs an all powerful, us vs them, roided, No consequences state revenue agents. Both are bad and both should be avoided. Both can be fatal to encountered.
Right up front, where did you get your medical training to know that the cardiac arrest happened slowly? Were you there, are you a doctor, EMT, first provider? Did you examin floyd while he was in this situation?
NO, you are full of crap making claims that are not factually based and depending on them to make your argument.
You base your argument on information that is impossible for you to know.
This is just another way of telling big bald faced lies and trying to sell them as fact and truth.
Everything that follows is BS supposition based on what you want to think or what makes your arguments sound rational.
It is just too bad that your whole post is truth and fact challenged.
Should I stop and count how many of the “false arguments” we were taught about in college English you utilized?
False as in assuming facts not in evidence and trying to sell them as truth. False in this instance means dishonest.
Your whole line of crap fails because it is not factually based and is not supported by physical or scientific evidence.
You avoid all facts and solid evidence like they are the plague because they do not support your unsupported fairy tale narrative.
I am done with those who live in fantasy land and try and sell it to others as if they are an expert. (Citing a false expert is one of those false/dishonest argument that is required learning in college English). I’m guessing you did not take college English.....
Have a happy Easter.
And why is that? Because you can't expel air past your vocal chords. Plus, you forgot to mention that he was claiming he couldn't breath after they sat him in the patrol car. I think I remember he also said that while standing and resisting arrest.
4 times the lethal dose of fentanyl? I'm surprised he lasted as long as he did.
Maybe Cher could have helped if she had got him off drugs.
I’m not sure I understand your post.
Are you demonizing all police because of a few who may be out of control and of poor judgment? I am aware that such cops exist, but I’ve never encountered one.
Police have the result a police state who answer to ploticians no the people. No knock raids, weapons pulled for traffic stops, refusal to Do the moral/just thing in trade for absurd pension funds. Police patrolling areas they are not connected too, enforcement of questionable laws, i unity in all but the most obvious crimes + still preferential treatment and overall abuse without understanding the laws the try to enforce .....
My small town police seem to be good, same with the county sheriff. Overall, I would deal with the average criminal vs the police.
One other thing - you say few, I say most.
Traffic stop - profile pulled, they walk to the car with either weapons drawn on their hand on their weapon. Can I do the same to most of the police - NO, I WOULD GET SHOT OR ARRESTED. So it’s not some small group. Why do the police collective Bargaining still fight drug testing. I have to for most jobs with the understanding that it can be required at ant future time. We are not equal. One of the two are higher on the political spectrum. Most cops know 3-5% commit most of the crimes, so why would you or I have any interaction with them. The truth is known and you hide your head to the truth. U
I”ve been pulled over several times; never saw a weapon drawn. Usually, it was to inform me of a safety issue.
What are you doing, that you receive such treatment?
Look online. Your buttercup view isn’t realistic. Police treat everyone as outside the blue. I have had traffic stops for BS where the walk to the car with their hands on their weapons. Easy quick report warrant no such response. If I walk up to a police car with my hands on a gun, they will not react the way we are expected. Popo can go FO. No need for them personally. One time needed them, they showed up the next day. Worship them, bow to the if so desired but for me they are just low IQ goons.
You have a very jaundiced view; and your posts suggest to me that you have some serious *attitude* going on - if not also a very ‘interesting’ history.
It’s normal for police to run your plate and record when they pull you over - and even keep a hand on their gun. They have no idea what they may be encountering.
(Why would YOU ever need to walk up to a police car with your hand on your gun?)
Cher probably knows someone who could’ve sold George Floyd enough fentanyl to kill him at home so he wouldn’t have had to go threaten others.
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